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[–] axont@hexbear.net 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

The only worthwhile culture from the south was created by either by non-whites, or very poor whites who were sharing notes with black or Latino people. Stuff like blues music and rock and roll are southern, but they're from black southern culture. Southern hip-hop is fun too. Niche genres like horrorcore and arguably vaporwave can be traced to it.

The south used to pump out some pretty ok white writers though. Flannery O'Connor, William Faulkner, even Tennessee Williams. I doubt any of them would want to be represented with a confederate flag though.

Y'all will notice that southern white culture took a dive once there were fewer whites who grew up poor or working class and continued identifying that way into adulthood.

[–] Sinister@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

there are like cajun people. But most of the white southern culture were slavelords larping as anglo-norman chevaliers.

[–] axont@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

cajun people for a long time were in that grey area of being almost white people but not quite, kind of like Italians and Irish were. In fact one of my friends from high school had his grandparents arrested in the 1950s under segregation laws because the wife was cajun and the husband was italian.

One of my ancestors was a cajun and was also arrested and thrown out of new orleans for violating some kind of segregation ordinance regarding gambling or something.

I guess cajun people are fully considered white now, but that wasn't the case for a while, like a bunch of them got sold into slavery when England took over French Canada

[–] Sinister@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

Really? I did not know that, I always thought that it was Creoles that got into such trouble since they were kinda not fitting into the race mold of the time. I guess the English really saw them as a threat then.

[–] usernamesaredifficul@hexbear.net 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] axont@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Bluegrass is like rock and roll. It started as a black thing. The banjo itself was invented by enslaved creole people and western Africans in the 1600s. It is cool music though.

[–] LaGG_3@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The music that bluegrass grew out of was made by black Americans, which brings us back to:

The only worthwhile culture from the south was created by either by non-whites, or very poor whites who were sharing notes with black or Latino people.

[–] usernamesaredifficul@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

did you just one drop theory music

[–] Smeagolicious@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

I think it’s a fair assessment to say the roots of a huge proportion of “southern” culture, art, and music are directly derived from the people who were an enforced second class (or property) in the region. Hell, white “southern” culture now in no small part still defines itself by its hatred of the groups whose contributions are the foundations of their cultural identity today. It’s not pulling the one drop rule when these fucks still use their “culture” to justify hate of the people who built the foundations they stand on