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[–] SeedyOne@lemm.ee 22 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

None of us like it but most of us, eventually, learn what a trap third party voting is the way the system is set up. When you're young, naive and a bit idyllic it seems like an easy choice. "I'm standing up for change!" you think to yourself. Or perhaps the old "We gotta start somewhere, let's get that 5%!" nugget.

Then you get older and the shit you used watch from the sidelines on TV actually starts to affect your lives. Health care, education, retirement and other life issues show up and that naivety falls away rapidly as you learn that A) it'll take a revolution of sorts for any meaningful change and B) our lives are too short to hope for said revolution. Do we still want that change, absolutely. However, sometimes in life, you really do need to choose between the douche and the turd sandwich.

[–] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 3 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Then you get older...

Then you get even older and realize that choosing the douche or the turd sandwich ends up with you holding a douche or a turd sandwich.

At 52 I'm done with these games. Its too important to my children, my nation, and the actual environment I live in.

[–] CmdrShepard@lemmy.one 4 points 11 months ago

I don't think these people will ever get it. It's the same mentality that keeps climate change raging on, "I can't change anything on my own, so I'll just keep doing the same thing until someone else fixes it."

[–] SeedyOne@lemm.ee 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Fair to be fed up, but I feel that was more a concern when the two sides of the coin were very close to being the same. I'm not much behind you on age but I can still see that only one option TODAY is trying to blatantly and openly destroy most of the progress we made in your 52 years. I'd rather hold the douche and have a chance at getting out clean than hold the turd and assuredly end up covered in shit.

[–] Buelldozer@lemmy.today -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

...but I can still see that only one option TODAY is trying to blatantly and openly destroy most of the progress we made in your 52 years.

They both are, one is just more open about it and willing to get there a bit faster on some issues. Yes, the bulk of Conservatives are somewhere between "Awful" and "JFC this person needs to be beamed into outer space!" but the Authoritarianism and Stupidity are running just as rampant among the so-called Liberals.

I’d rather hold the douche and have a chance at getting out clean than hold the turd and assuredly end up covered in shit.

You know what a douche is for, right? That's the point of that skit, it's a Hobsons Choice. It"s amazing to me people continually bring that skit up without understanding what it really meant.

[–] SeedyOne@lemm.ee 3 points 11 months ago

Of course I know what one is for, the point I was making is that what SEEMS to be the same to you and what may have been is no longer the case.

You've clearly already checked out and, at best, listen to mainstream media if you're still in the "they are the same" or "one hides it better" camp. Lost cause.