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[-] squiblet@kbin.social 11 points 9 months ago

Christians have had years to see that Trump is not what they’d call a “godly” person. It baffles me how segments of the population who claim to uphold Christian ethics can so overwhelmingly support him, but of course by definition they are not objective or logical people.

[-] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

What makes you think he doesn't support Christian ethics? I strongly associate his behavior and words with the Christianity I grew up with. He is vengeful, bigoted, childish, treats everyone he sees as weaker with contempt, prideful, and demands loyalty to himself over all other considerations. What part of that isnt things associated with a follower of Christ?

[-] squiblet@kbin.social 4 points 9 months ago

It’s the difference between their professed beliefs and their actual behavior. One could deduce that they like Trump because he’s like them. If people claiming to be devout Christians actually understood and followed the principles Jesus preached they’d be amazing people, but sadly it’s quite rare.

[-] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

First off there was no historical Jesus. Just a fridge by James the Just and Paul delusions of a celestial being.

Secondly even if there were a historical Jesus we have no access to his words. Up until Mark there are only three sayings attributed to Jesus

  1. Give preachers money, said by a preacher (Paul). Which he says was related to him we don't know directly by someone or if he just thought it or if he was lying.

  2. Don't divorce. The same. We don't know where the idea came from

  3. And the words of the last supper which they way they are written hint that it was just a dream. And like the other two.

The first time we start hearing actual (supposed) Jesus teachings is in Mark, written +40 years after the supposed events. If you follow the Chronology the NT already had 17 books written. 17 books and everything Jesus taught can fit in one run-on sentence. And in Mark we see every ethical teaching copied from early popular Jewish and Greek works. With one exception. No where do we see the violent anti-blasphemy rules outside of Mark. The only thing the Jesus of the Bible taught is to murder the non-believer.

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