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[–] jennwiththesea@lemmy.world 21 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Well, it's both. From the article, 2-3 wheelers do account for 60% of the drop:

[–] aeharding@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Oh this is so fucking typical. “EV” or electric vehicles never means e-bikes when it would benefit e-bikes (for example, EV subsidies = electric car subsidies) but when it conveniently makes electric cars look better, oh look an e-bike is an EV! 😒

[–] HaoBianTai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Isn't this article very clearly referring to Asian adoption of scooters, not a bunch of New Yorkers on e-bikes?

[–] adrian783@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

does that invalidate the point?

[–] HaoBianTai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I mean, yes? You're whining about US decision making around subsidies using a portion of the article discussing electric scooters in places like Taiwan. These are different continents and different vehicle types.

A $500 subsidy on electric bicycles would not get Americans out of their cars and onto a bicycle, but it might make cyclists move to electric bikes, which wouldn't be a behavioral change that would impact anything relevant to this study.

I'm on your side, I wish my commute was only a couple miles. I'd ride a bicycle, and I've considered electric motorcycles. But you're barking up the wrong tree, "price" is not what's keeping Americans off of bicycles, electric or otherwise.

[–] adrian783@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

A $500 subsidy on electric bicycles would not get Americans out of their cars and onto a bicycle, but it might make cyclists move to electric bikes, which wouldn't be a behavioral change that would impact anything relevant to this study.

why would you think that? I think you're wrong and price is a big factor. cyclists are unlikely to move to ebike because they can already make it work on a regular bike.

[–] poopkins@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Strange that the parent comment is downvoted for highlighting the fact that electric bikes (and scooters & trikes) continue to make more of an impact.

For me personally, since I got my electric bike 2 years ago, I use it at least 90% of the time to commute to work (unless the weather is too miserable).

[–] Zink@programming.dev 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

If I may ask, what bike did you get, and what are the stats for range and speed?

[–] poopkins@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Oh I'd have to check about the stats. I'm in Switzerland, where I use a Winora Tria 8 and usually carry along just above the electrical assistance (unless I go up a mountain), which caps out at 25 km/h.