In some of the music communities I'm in the content creators are already telling their userbase to go follow them on threads. They're all talking about some kind of beef between Elon and Mark and the possibility of a boxing match... Mark was right to call the people he's leaching off of fucking idiots.

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[–] anewbeginning@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Most people are completely ignorant about how much they are known to the tech companies, what the data is used for, and the dangers emanating from it. They don't know the risks, so they don't fear them.

What is shocking is the apathy of states. Slightly more movement in the past years, but it's still extraordinary how spying laws are now being circumvented through the use of industry, and states are just mostly looking away.

[–] Lenins2ndCat@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What is shocking is the apathy of states. Slightly more movement in the past years, but it’s still extraordinary how spying laws are now being circumvented through the use of industry, and states are just mostly looking away.

Not too shocking when you realise that the US isn't going to restrict its own tech companies because it likes being the global tech hegemony, while europe and others lag because they have become vassalised by the US, this report mentions ukraine in the title but the content of the report sees it as having taken place over a much longer period. This isn't some fringe influence org, it's a direct policy tank funded by Germany, France, Belgium, Italy, Spain, etc etc etc the list is really really fucking long.

Europe has almost no digital social media of its own, no digital sovereignty if you will, and the vassalisation has caused extreme reluctance to address this, which compounds the issue. Unlike India, China, Russia or others where they have constructed their own media that they control.

I doubt that anyone is going to address this, not unless they want to end up in the crosshairs of punishing sanction policy. It's not going to get resolved until dedollarisation of the federal reserve currency progresses significantly further.

[–] Bazoogle@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Honestly, I feel like it's from technological incompetence. These people don't understand how a basic website works. They think facebook is entirely on their phone. Which, don't get me wrong, there isn't really anything wrong with an older person not understanding how it works. But it's entirely different when you're the one responsible for making decisions on laws involving technology.

Technology is developing at mach speed, and the government has a pack of snails pulling it forward. Couple that with many of the people making decisions being ancient, and you have laws that are not even close to matching our technology. Shoot, even photography laws are outdated. In the US, photography laws are practically non-existent. The only laws that apply to people taking pictures are trespassing laws. If you're allowed to stand there, and you can see it, you can take a picture. Laws weren't really needed when cameras weren't in every single persons pocket all the time.

[–] Lenins2ndCat@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I disagree. The direct politicians sometimes are completely incompetent but their staff aren't, and they are listening to them. The decisions they make and things they choose to pursue are based on the interests of the class that they represent, the ruling class financial elite. They aren't bumbling incompetently, they are competently doing evil shit.

This class recognises that US hegemony is strengthened through control of digital media, which it absolutely has intelligence agency fingers in, where it gets to project whatever the fuck it wants to project into the world through the power that this amount of control provides it.

One of the most astute and forward thinking things that the Chinese did was recognise this would develop into a problem and go the "great firewall" route, which enabled them to develop, catch up and eventually build their own equivalents of american services that aren't in american control. The EU's failure to do this and the financial vassalisation it has undergone, coupled with the weakening of it by the largest and most competent military leaving via brexit, has led to it becoming completely dominated by US companies.

And now it can't do fuck all about that. Trying to do so is political suicide. It's a slow and extremely difficult hole to dig themselves out of.

My take is that it won't change much until dedollarisation results in the US no longer being able to print money every time a financial crisis happens. Once the dollar is no longer the global reserve currency, which is happening very rapidly now because it's used sanctions far too much, it will be in a weak position when a financial crisis occurs. When it won't be able to print money to save the markets from crashing there will be an economic collapse. That collapse will make a mess of all overseas power, both military and soft power, allowing everywhere else in the world that it is exerting power over the opportunity to break free. When countries take that opportunity it will have a multiplying effect upon US problems, because it is a country that completely relies on overseas power and exploitation.

We have a lot of very interesting years ahead.

[–] aceshigh@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

they are known to the tech companies, what the data is used for, and the dangers emanating from it. They don’t know the risks, so they don’t fear them.

for the laymen, where can i read on this?