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[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The point is that US aid ended up in taliban hands in spite of US policy, not because of it.

So because the government violated policy it wasn't the US doing it?

We know for a fact that the US would have broken ties had Pakistan's enthusiastic cooperation with the Taliban and Al Qaeda been more understood at the time

Highly doubtful. The US never had any compunctions propping up some of the worst human rights abusers in the world if there is a strategic or economic advantage to be had. See for example every right wing dictator in South America, Saudi Arabia and various genocidal governments of Israel.

the point still stands that people are waaaaay mischaracterizing the role the US plaid in the Taliban's rise.

It really doesn't. They LITERALLY couldn't have done it without both direct and indirect help from the US.

[–] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee -3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Guy I'm literally spelling it out for you, it happened because Pakistan was constantly lying about what it was doing with the stuff the US gave it

If I take a sandwich you gave me and hand it to someone I know is gonna deck you, that doesn't mean you punched yourself in the face just because you should have known better.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Yeah, that analogy doesn't translate to international aid and also doesn't explain why the US treated Pakistan as a trusted ally from the start of the Afghanistan war until finding the Osama bin Laden complex there.

Nothing will convince your Dunning Kruger poster boy ass, though, so we're done here. Have the day you deserve.