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Class is an entirely useless metric for analysis, here let me show you by doing class analysis and getting mad because there's some nuanced edge cases to it
this person has never heard of the prisoners dilemna
You are asking a typical redditor to think critically?
What is cornering the market?
What is a monopoly?
What is a cartel/oligopoly?
Lolol
The purpose of a CEO is to make as much money as possible, not "fuck over their competitors", e.g form a monopoly. The path of least resistance is forming a price cartel with like one guy - i.e the immediate outcomes of early capitalism and the defining characteristics of the founding of most capitalist states.
Try getting healthy insurance or a phone plan today lmao. Try for 5 minutes to get municipal fiber in your city.
These rubes think the point of competition is to compete forever. The point of is to win.
they really do believe that endless competition is more productive than collaboration
Regarding the first point, what does this person think the purpose of the bourgeois state is? Yes capitalists each have their own individual interests and compete with each other, but the state arbitrates those conflicts and maintains bourgeois dominance over society by enforcing the private property relations which benefit capitalists collectively to the detriment of everybody else.
There's clearly not a better alternative, that would be born out of capitalism. Nope, nuh uh. Clearly we just have to put up with the capitalists exploiting us until the sun hyperinflates and explodes.
CEOs do fuck each other over, but it is unheard of for them to do this by, say, causing their competitor's employees to unionize. There are real and bitter rivalries in the bourgeoisie, but that does not mean they don't know who the real enemies are.
fuck that's a really good point, gonna have to remember this one
It's a lot like trying to explain the motivation of individual politicians, where they do really compete against each other too but likewise have something of a standard of conduct. They might in extreme cases even kill each other, but you're more likely to see that than see them adopting a genuinely communist platform in order to gain popularity because a communist platform threatens the class and will be met with reprisal from much more than just the little faction competing against them in the election. Communists gaining a foothold anywhere represents a threat to capitalism everywhere by demonstrating an alternative and giving power to workers.
A bourgeois murderer who kills a fellow member of their class will of course potentially be punished by the state, which could be considered reprisal by the capitalist class because they control the state, but you haven't seen true collective action from the capitalist class until you have seen how they respond to communists.