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[–] burntbutterbiscuits@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Israel could start by ending apartheid and allowing the Palestinian people a modicum of dignity and representation in government, or let them have their own state.

[–] asuka@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

And failing that, the appropriate reaction from Hamas is to fire missiles at Israeli civlians? Fuck off.

[–] tryptaminev@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Well given that Gaza is a defacto prison, they could also beg and pray, like they did for the last 40 years without effect. When you are faced with an opressive regime, there is only giving up or fighting. And it is not exactly like Hamas can build rockets with GPS or other sophisticated aiming systems like Israel or NATO can.

[–] ahornsirup@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago

If the Palestinians lay down their arms the war is over. If the Israelis lay down their arms they'd get genocided. Hamas explicitly calls for death to the Jews and they have deliberately targeted civilian populations time and time again. Hamas doesn't want a negotiated solution to the conflict, they want a Final Solution to the Jewish Question. There is one side here that can just stop the violence, and it's not Israel.

[–] Koffiato@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

like they did for the last 40 years without effect.

Have you seen even a single damn wiki article about this place, let alone read a book?

[–] tryptaminev@feddit.de -1 points 1 year ago

yes i did. And in none of them just begging in praying helped their situation.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

That's generally what happens when you treat people less than human long enough; they fight back.

[–] DrRektinson420@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Fight back by murdering and raping civilians? Do not forget Hamas does have a majority support according to most sources.

Israel definitely has issues with Palestinian human rights violations but there's a difference between throwing a family out of a house and razing it or shooting a kid that's trying to storm a military outpost and dragging innocent civilians from a peace concert and raping and murdering them.

Just look at what Hamas, again - an organization with majority support that does not keep any secrets around wanting to murder Jewish people, is doing and you might understand why Israel has been handling the entire situation with an iron fist. Now that iron fist will fall down and it will be innocent Palestinians suffering for Hamas' crimes.

[–] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes that is exactly what you should do to a population which is illegally occupying you.

[–] asuka@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 months ago

Like the USSR occupied and incorporated a bunch of surrounding countries?