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The planet's average temperature hit 17.23 degrees Celsius on Thursday, surpassing the 17.18C record set on Tuesday and equalled on Wednesday.

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[–] ori@lemmy.sdf.org 57 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (38 children)

Maybe I've consumed too much sci-fi over the years. I've always thought the primary goal should be that of making this species a space fairing one. Secondary, they to extend the life of this planet as much as possible. It will die one day, that's unavoidable.

At the present, it looks like neither are being achieved. It's all just going to collapse on itself. Maybe the human population 2.0 can resurface and try again after the planet kills almost everyone.

I feel sorry for the younger generation and my peers with children.

[–] Jnxl@lemmy.one 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I've known for decades that we humans are failed species that will eventually go extinct. Tbf, everyone are and new species come and go. It has been quite interesting and often sad watching our overshoot while many people have lived in hubris and thought we'd conquer the space one day.

The Earth is one special place in space where life has been born. I have no clue why that has happened but I'm thankful for having been alive and been able to witness larger life cycle in this planet.

I doubt any species will ever conquer the galaxies. It seems that life consumes energy and uses it to grow until it one day collapses.

[–] ipkpjersi@lemmy.one 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yeah. I was born too late to explore earth, born too early to explore space, but born just in time for dank memes. I'm honestly very grateful for that. We live in a pretty exciting time, as sad as it is that we'll eventually all go extinct.

[–] BallsInTheShredder@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

That "born too late to explore earth" bit hits my heart big time. I've always been sad that we can't do that anymore like we used to be able to. People a thousand years ago could just leave and explore if they wanted, then pitch a tent somewhere beautiful and live there if they chose. If you wanted you could live at the top of a mountain, or inside of a cave covered by a waterfall. Such beauty and freedom. It's sad that a thousand years later, all of our "progress" has essentially taken away nearly all of our freedom in that regard. You never had to be hungry back then, you could hunt or plant food nearly anywhere you pleased. Never had to be homeless, you could fell some trees and build a cabin somewhere beautiful. Now? Most people are fortunate if they can afford a vacation a few hours away once every year or so, if that. There's no peace of mind, we all work work work and scramble to fulfill as many of our endless obligations as possible. Then we retire, if fortunate enough and hopefully don't have to work as hard for a little bit and die. I've always had dreams of sailing the sea and exploring, almost like memories in my mind. Maybe it's a past life, maybe it's memory passed down through my DNA, maybe it's fantasy. I don't know what it is, but I know that it's what feels right to me. Planting down and living in our homes/work almost our entire lives then dying feels so wrong. I care almost nothing about material wishes or monetary gain, but I'd like to be rich in order to travel and feel free.

[–] ori@lemmy.sdf.org 17 points 1 year ago

Some serious rose tinted glasses looking back on history there! At what point in time are you thinking about? For most of history I'd have had fealty to some land owner. I'd say we have more freedom and opertunity to experience the world now than before.

You can still explore the planet for yourself, just because something has been experienced by someone before you shouldn't take too much away from your joy if experiencing it.

[–] Techmaster@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

A little bit of carbon fiber, resin, and a $30 Logitech wireless controller, and you can explore the bottom of the ocean and see the Titanic up close.

[–] ipkpjersi@lemmy.one 2 points 1 year ago

Honestly, I kind of agree. I travelled a little bit here or there when I was younger, nothing too crazy, only been out of my continent once in my life. I'm definitely starting to get a bit more wanderlust, but it's so expensive to travel so far away lol

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What is a "failed species?" Do you believe there is a win condition on the universe?

[–] Jnxl@lemmy.one 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm sorry if that sounded too harsh.

I consider finding econiche and surviving in it a win condition. When scaling it to whole universe, it would be being able to exist without consuming and decaying their environment they need for their existence.

Unfortunately, or not, I don't think there is a single species that can live forever. I think all life is based on consumption, one eating something else and growing until it exceeds its limits in environment, after which it decays to meet its carrying capasity.

Eventually sun no longer provides sunlight and plants stop growing. Chemosynthetic bacteria and some fungi may still use some compounds as their energy source, but they have limits as well and eventually all life simply perishes.

So do I believe or think there is something to win? To me simply being alive is a win. The space seems very empty and deadly to me. It's miraculous that we exist, although sad that we are causing extinction event.

[–] Feweroptions@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Unfortunately, or not, I don't think there is a single species that can live forever. I think all life is based on consumption, one eating something else and growing until it exceeds its limits in environment, after which it decays to meet its carrying capasity.

Just recently I saw a very interesting veritasium video about entropy. He explains that life acts to increase entropy. Before entropy, nothing exciting happens. After entropy, nothing exciting will ever happen again. But as life causes entropy, that's when the excitement and magic happens.

It's an extremely profound video, and may give you comfort. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxL2HoqLbyA&t=0

[–] Cabrio@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I think it's cool that life is technically a natural geological phenomenon, the building blocks of RNA are naturally occurring amino acids that hitch rides on space debris that after interacting with the right combination of other inorganic material creates a recursive entropy system that develops the capacity to comsume other materials to continue the natural chemical reactions that extract the necessary building blocks to sustain itself thus becoming an "organism", basically an organic black hole of entropy, and this chain of chemical reactions eventually resulted in consciousness, then cognizance, and now we're here, a natural geological product of the universe with the capacity to observe and understand itself.

[–] Siegfried@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's an extremely profound video, and may give you comfort. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxL2HoqLbyA&t=0

Thank you, it does help

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

It's not harsh, it's just illustrative of a view.

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