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[–] DarkGamer@kbin.social 167 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

"That's why it was one of the great presidencies, they say. Even the opponents sometimes say he did very well, I have to say. 'Take it back,' they scream. his people say 'Take it back.' From that day on, our opponents, a lot of opponents, but we've been waging an all-out war on American democracy."

Doesn't sound like a gaffe to me. He has been waging a war on American democracy, literally tried a coup.

[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 87 points 11 months ago (3 children)

This. Why are people treating it like it's a joke? He's literally been spouting the bullet points from Project 2025 practically since it came out.

This wasn't a gaffe, it was the mask slipping.

"When somebody tells you who they are, believe them."

[–] arensb@lemmy.world 31 points 11 months ago (1 children)

"When somebody tells you who they are, believe them."

No. Donald Trump told us he was a brilliant deal-maker, a stable genius, and a gifted billionaire.

A better idea is to do as Maya Angelou said: when somebody shows you what they are, over and over, believe them.

[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

We could just amend it to be, "When somebody tells you who they are, believe them until they demonstrate otherwise."

[–] PupBiru@kbin.social 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

rule 2: when someone tells you who they are, believe them
rule 1: trust but verify

[–] youngGoku@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

When someone show and tells them believe you.

[–] cultsuperstar@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

It's not even the mask slipping. This is saying what they want and their supporters going right along with it. They don't even bother lying or beating around the bush anymore.

[–] elbarto777@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

What if they tell me they're awesome?

[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Believe them, at least until they demonstrate otherwise.

[–] elbarto777@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I don't know, man. There's gotta be more context to that saying. That's how people get duped.

I mean, even Trump can be an example of this.

[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

So if Trump says he's awesome, believe him until he demonstrates otherwise. It won't take long in his case.

If Trump says he loves America, believe him until he says he's trying to destroy our democracy.

I don't see why we need additional context.

[–] elbarto777@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Well, you just provided the context I was looking for. Thanks.

[–] makyo@lemmy.world 17 points 11 months ago

Yeah I've been waiting for the day he decides to own the term fascist the way he's taken other terms. I don't see a downside for him either really, the base would eat it up