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I think considering how incredibly harmful Facebook/Meta has been to society, and that Meta intentionally pushes divisive and hateful content because it creates the most engagement, it makes sense from a pragmatic point of view to simply pre-emptively block them in all ways possible. Their entire history as a company has shown they will make anyone who uses their services, and society as a whole, worse off. Intentional or otherwise. It need not be motivated from a metaphorical middle finger, but as self-defense against a practical certainly of something bad coming from interaction with them.
It takes only a short glance at the 'Facebook papers' leak to see why it makes sense to distance ourselves as much as possible:
To assume that some good could come from interacting with Meta is, in my honest opinion, a naive stance. But that's just my two cents.
I'm sort of tired of talking about this, particularly because it's all academic: they don't offer any federated instance currently to defederate from. But I want to clarify my reasoning.
My point is NOT that we should "gIvE tHeM a ChANce!" We all know they are run by greedy, exploitative, untrustworthy people.
My point is that I think our response should be rooted in causes and effects rather than vibes. If they offered a federated instance that I had friends on, I'd want to be able to see my friends posts and have them see mine. And if Facebook then tried to find ways to push ads to a remote instance, then we'd obviously defederate. Because that's an appropriate tool to correct a specific harm.
That's all I'm saying. Currently, Facebook has no means of affecting my experience on this instance, so I don't care whether we preemptively reject them from federating. The moment that they DO affect my experience, they'll obviously be booted. That's good enough for me.
I gotta be perfectly honest here; if despite all the discussion that's happened in this thread, you can still say something like this, then I really don't think anything we've said has really gotten through to you, and I too "tire of talking about this."
Fair.