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[–] sir_reginald@lemmy.world 38 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I know what Tor is and how to use it, thanks. I was just wondering what the video had to say about Tor + VPNs that hasn't been said a million times. But I'm not watching video content.

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 21 points 11 months ago (2 children)

It's kind of weird to comment on a video saying you're not going to watch the video but hey fair enough.

Just for you here is the video transcript

https://pastebin.com/ijpuwQZ7

Apologies for the link, it was too large to fit in a post

[–] CodexArcanum@lemmy.world 21 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Hey thanks for the text link but I can't read all that! Is there an audio link to this transcript being read by the stolen AI likeness of Stephen Fry?

[–] Mr_Blott@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

I don't have the attention span. Could someone link a TikTok?

[–] wildginger@lemmy.myserv.one 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

This is a lemmy post, with a link to a video. The comment is not on any video.

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You're correct. Let me amend my previous post.

It's weird to reply to a Lemmy post about a video, saying you're not going to watch the video.

[–] wildginger@lemmy.myserv.one 16 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Is it? Its a pretty common forum comment, saying that they have no interest or capability to watch or listen to a video, and would rather the info was written down so they could read it.

This is a normal request from digg, from reddit, here on lemmy, all over niche hobby forums....

Text based website users usually want text based content. Not really weird.

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] wildginger@lemmy.myserv.one 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You tend to find text based site users wish they werent?

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

If people click on a video link, the discussion is typically about the video. Coming into the discussion about the video saying you're refusing to watch the video is not productive in my mind. People who want to engage in the content of the video typically wish to have a productive conversation.

For people who wish to be text only, I respect that, and I understand that, that's why I provided the previous parent a link to the transcript that is also available on the YouTube video.

[–] wildginger@lemmy.myserv.one 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

But, again, not a video? You click on the post link, which opens the post and comments. The title says nothing about video either. I didnt know it was a video until after opening the post.

People who are using a text site, who want to engage with your posts title's implied topic of discussion, are just a bit expecting the text site to have more text to read.

Kinda hard to engage with a video you cant watch, when the post implied a topic of discussion you wanted to read about, no?

I dunno man youre just acting real shocked and surprised that the people at the chinese restaurant expected noodles and rice, and are giving you side eyes for offering them street tacos. Im not saying the tacos arent good tacos.

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 6 points 11 months ago

I see the issue, I'm using the Voyager app, it's very clear it's a video before I open the post.

I guess if different apps don't make that clear, there would be a point of contention. Fair enough thank you for bringing that up

I provided a link to the transcript of the video, you can engage with that textually and join the discussion.

[–] Redoomed@lemm.ee 8 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

To add on to the video transcript that @jet@hackertalks.com posted, here is Jonah's post from the Privacy Guides forum that more or less summarizes the video: https://discuss.privacyguides.net/t/clarify-tors-weaknesses-with-respect-to-observability/3676/14

It also includes links to useful resources and noteworthy articles referenced in the video, like the case regarding the deanonymized Tor user and the Harvard network admins. You can also toggle dark mode on the forum website, which is useful for those using anti-fingerprinting browsers such as Tor Browser or Mullvad Browser.

[–] sir_reginald@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

thanks, there were some bits there that I was not aware of. This is why the written form is superior to videos, I can quickly scan through the paragraphs searching for the information I want.

[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 4 points 11 months ago

But written is less easily monetizable and requires more attention.