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Ocasio-Cortez endorses Biden's reelection campaign, sending a strong signal of Democratic unity
(www.independent.co.uk)
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this shit gets me angry. both parties suck, biden sucks, yeah yeah yeah. he isn't in support of actively ripping rights away from millions of people, and he isn't on board with genociding trans people. i swear, you have either be super out of touch with the people actively under threat by republicans or putting your principles over the lives of actual people to even begin equating the two parties. work on utopian political projects every other day of the year, build movements to affect broader social change, but i swear if you end up not voting blue during one of the most precarious moments of this shithole's democracy what comes next is worse for all of us.
and to be clear, biden sucks and i hate him. but genuinely i don't want to get genocided, and the blue guy is a lot less likely to try that shit on me or the people i love.
People like them is why Trump won.
No, Hillary is why Trump won.
Just on my tiny street in America, three families lost their homes to Obama's foreclosure crisis. Multiply that by every street in this country and you have a lot of people who won't see the appeal of Hillary being a continuation of Obama's policies.
So it's only "a lot less likely" not a definitive won't ever?
oh for sure. i don't trust the dude, and his policy (like all capitalists) has tangible impacts on my quality of life. every moment we don't have universal health care, and specifically universal gender affirming healthcare for one of my specific minority corners, leads to the unnecessary deaths of innocent people. every moment we don't have housing justice, climate justice, and any number of other progressive policies leaves more people in horrific situations. i just don't think electoral politics provides a pathway for anything better at the moment, and if it goes to the red team things get much worse for everybody much quicker.
Historically, the guy that fought against apartheid is unlikely to commit genocide.
There's no definitive 'ever' in anything though. History has a few democratically-elected populist-turned-dictators if memory serves me right
And that statement isn't really true if you're a wage earner, need health care, need education, or an abortion, or need a home that you can both afford and live in. Dems just as enthusiastically shit on all of those people as Republicans.
Lol what? Please explain the fascism that I’m apparently completely out of the loop on.
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Democrat = Liberal = Socialist = Communist = Fascist = Nazi. Therefore all Democrats are literally Nazi Fascists
/s
No, but the uni-party that's in power in the U.S. is quite fascist. That has nothing to do with leftism, and I never implied it does. Apparently you missed in my original comment where I made it clear that Biden isn't the only fascist being promoted ("either").
Oh, I was replying @DesertRose and I only saw your comment immediately before it. I'm not a 'both sides' kinda person but they are both quite guilty - Republicans do seem to be more mask-off tho.
That being said, I don't disagree with your response to @DesertRose.
My comment was more tongue-in-cheek and not meant to be taken too seriously, thus the "/s"
Fair enough. It sounded like you were attempting to characterize my comment, and that the "/s" was meant to show that you, yourself, didn't agree with that characterization. Thanks for clarifying.
Fwiw I generally don't think Biden is a Fascist per se. I think he is a corporatist and a neolib which can quickly lead to fascism. We need a different voting system besides first past to post so we can get some of these ghouls out of office.
"'If they didn't vote for a lizard', said Ford, 'the wrong lizard might get in.'" - Douglas Adams, Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
Those are not mutually exclusive. Biden very much subscribes to fascist politics, and has for his entire political career.
Plenty of fascist policy in Biden's career of politics: mass incarceration—including concentration camps—the “War On Drugs”, union busting and strikebreaking, mass surveillance (e.g. the Patriot Act, which he happily takes credit for), militarization of the police, attacks on journalism and whistleblowers, etc.
Yes, you really should work on getting in the loop.
The war on drugs has been a policy standard since Nixon to put minorities and the leftist youth in prison and has unfortunately has not been recanted but progress is slowing being made to change that.
The union busting was heartbreaking to hear but it is by no means an indicator of somebody being a fascist. In the US there has been plenty of union busting by capitalists.
The PATRIOT Act is a very unfortunate product of fear that nearly everyone gave liberty for some sense of security. Most people in the US were frightened by the 9/11 attacks, and there were few people at the time that saw that it would be a huge mistake to give the government such vast surveillance powers. Hindsight is very strong now with this.
Militarization of the police has more to do with a state by state, and department by department thing. The federal government has very little to do with local policing. There’s several Supreme Court cases basically saying so. Probably not the greatest idea as I would like a little more federal protection from and oversight of local police forces.
The only one I’m not familiar with is the whistleblowers. The only attacks on the press I know of are him calling out far right outlets that publish false and misleading information. Certainly not the president who claimed fake news about everything.
I am not super supportive of the Democratic Party, it has its issues but it is far from fascism. I think you are confusing that with authoritarianism. The Republican Party is the one that endorses candidates that want people like me to be dead and that is a pretty big motivator to vote for the Dems to prevent that from happening to me or others.