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A Controversial US Surveillance Program May Get Slipped Into a ‘Must-Pass’ Defense Bill. (www.wired.com)

submitted 11 months ago by L4s@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world

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A Controversial US Surveillance Program May Get Slipped Into a ‘Must-Pass’ Defense Bill.::Congressional leaders are discussing ways to reauthorize Section 702 surveillance, including by attaching it to the National Defense Authorization Act, Capitol Hill sources tell WIRED.

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[–] schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de 18 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I was with you until the last sentence. Things like that are usually supported by many or even most Democrats too. The Democratic Party isn't a civil libertarian party, at all.

I have not researched these specific cases, so may be wrong about them.

[–] pokemaster787@ani.social 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I have not researched these specific cases, so may be wrong about them.

You're not obligated to do research on every individual bill the political parties push and what rider clauses they slip into unrelated bills. That's fine.

You, however, should have research and examples to back it up if you're gonna "both sides" this. The Democratic party is far far far from perfect or what I would want, but at the very least most of them seem to be campaigning in good faith or at the least not inciting actual violence and treason.

Saying "so may be wrong about them" isn't a free pass. Know that people read what you say, and we have a huge problem of political apathy (circa 2016) due to the constant repetition of "but both sides are the same." Let's please not exacerbate it unless we're bringing facts and evidence to the table.

[–] Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Know that people read what you say, and we have a huge problem of political apathy (circa 2016) due to the constant repetition of "but both sides are the same." Let's please not exacerbate it unless we're bringing facts and evidence to the table.

This so much ☝️☝️ thank you

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago

Things like that are usually supported by many or even most Democrats too

Good thing the world isn't a binary where rightful criticism of one "team" automatically confers praise on another.

I'm painfully aware that the lesser evil is still evil and that only a few specific types of people are well-represented in Congress, most of them not very good people.