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[–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

It's not that they're sharing reports on Israel/Gaza, it's that their account is solely dedicated to that activity. That suggests a level of organisation behind the account, as well as a bias, which is worthwhile consideration when trying to understand things objectively. They're not just some user that's posting stuff on their personal account; it isn't really grassroots, but possible astroturfing.

Also their account was created fairly recently, and around the time Hexbear was widely rejected by many instances in the federation. Lemmy.ml subsequently became a safe haven for many alts.

That isn't to say you should disregard what they're posting, it's just something to bear in mind.

[–] DmMacniel@feddit.de 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

But then you may want to look at the accusers account. Fairly recent (5 days) accusing OP for spamming with spammy comments. All the accuser had to do was pointing out in their own words what's wrong with sharing those reports.

[–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago

Lmfao good shout. Definitely some bias on their part also, albeit I do believe they have some sort of legal background.

Their account doesn't feel so focused on an agenda, though; while there's definitely a bias and lack of impartiality, it feels like that's being applied to content they encounter, rather than trying to dictate a message for others to swallow.

Not that I really read too much into it beyond a few randomly picked comments, but they have no posts.

They're also on kbin. Bleh.

[–] Dreamer@lemmy.ml 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

First, allow me to say that I can't help but appreciate your initial use of neutral language to ease the reader in before throwing out straight accusations as if they were fact. Sneaky sneaky, I like it.

It’s that their account is solely dedicated to that activity.

Has it ever occured to you, that someone would want to compartmentalize different aspects of their life or belief, especially controversial ones to avoid doxxing and harassment? I'm actually genuinely surprised that a lemmy.ml user would not be conscious of just how identifying information can be over time. Even if no one piece can directly identify an individual, with enough pieces, a picture can be painted. Even the way I type or punctuate leaves a thumbprint.

It isn’t really grassroots, but possible astroturfing.

First unsubstantiated accusation. Let's goooo! Is the requirement for any action to be grassroots that I explicitly identify myself? If I go to a protest that I believe in, wearing a mask, is it no longer grassroots? If your definition of grassroots is contingent on the lack of privacy, then sure.

When you say astroturfing, are you speaking about the posts or the votes? I post because I want to share the perspectives and voices that are absent in much of the ethnocentric Western media. Honestly, I am surprised by the general positive reception that these posts have been getting, and seeing an abundance pro-human rights, pro-justice voices is a breath of fresh air.

Also their account was created fairly recently, and around the time Hexbear was widely rejected by many instances in the federation.

The one thing I don't mind sharing is that this is my initial account I made back during the great Reddit Exodus, lmao. I initially planned on using it for normal use, but then the war broke out. I saw braindead Reddit takes, and felt compelled to speak.

When I saw Lemmy.world ban archive links, be criticized for being too big and thus defeating the purpose of decentralization, and the festering brain rot infecting .world that resulted from the mass migration of Redditors, I decided to jump ship and never look back.

I am going to keep keep doing what I have been doing, not just for the users here but in hopes that some of the readers themselves will further propogate the unheard voices of the masses.