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It's always the patriarchal conquerors like the Ancient Romans or the Ancient Greeks that they idolize and never the people like, say, the Picts or the Celts or the Gaul that rebelled against the brutal Roman empire. It's never the Scottish or the Irish heroes who fought back against the British Empire that followed in Rome's footsteps. None of them probably even know who Boudica is.

Ironically, a lot of the stuff you could call "white culture" was burnt at the stake, banned, brutalized, and literally demonized by the Empires that chuds think are so civilized. A lot of pagan culture was lost to time, or warped by Roman 'scholars' for propaganda purposes. If they truly cared about their 'culture', then "Muh Christian trad wife' would be seen as killing the identity of pagan women, rather than an aspiration.

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[–] WoofWoof91@hexbear.net 38 points 11 months ago (2 children)

None of them probably even know who Boudica is.

there was an infamous bnp "educational" video once that gave a mediocre recounting of her and the iceni's exploits (ending with the godawful line "and boudica was WHITE!") and they couldn't even say her fucking name right

[–] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 25 points 11 months ago

Yeah, they don't give a shit. Just the usual appropriation that right wingers do before idolizing her oppressors the next day.

[–] WeedReference420@hexbear.net 16 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Oh god I remember that shit, they also invoked Henry VIII as a great white UK hero which is hilarious given that he was a lousy king who undermined the Kingdom of England's position as a regional power with all of his bullshit. Not sure why they didn't go for Elizabeth I who was a far more competent English leader from a right wing/establishment perspective. I guess they didn't want to include too many women.

Of course, fascists are never going to be good at understanding history, it was around the same time that the BNP was sending out leaflets with a picture of a Spitfire on the cover - a Spitfire in Free Polish markings lmao.

[–] Egon@hexbear.net 5 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Didn't Henry #8 do pretty well in his youth? From what I remember reading it was moreso when he got old that things got bad. Young Henry curtailed the nobles and stabilised the place or something like that

[–] usernamesaredifficul@hexbear.net 6 points 11 months ago

Henry the 8th was for everything else he was a genuinely cunning statesman who among other things did break the power of the feudal barons over the English state

We focus a lot on funny fat guy obsessed with a son. But he wanted a son because without a son the barons would never stop thinking "Henry is powerful but I have to look to the future who comes after" and marrying off his daughters as heirs would mean being forced to allign as a subordinate power to either Spain or France.

He was also a brutal serial killer who would have close friends killed on a whim. But it's inaccurate to portray him as just a buffoon

[–] WeedReference420@hexbear.net 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, that's true. There was something of a theme of Tudors falling off in their later years.

[–] Egon@hexbear.net 5 points 11 months ago

Dude clowning on the king of France with an archery contest after getting thrown around by the little twink will always be peak pettiness, and for that Henry gets an 8/10 for me