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[–] Treczoks@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

How about finding the political party you find best, and join?

[–] quarry_coerce248@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

And then what? No party has a working concept. I don't have one either, so how should joining a party help in any way? Then I'll be helpless in a party.

[–] Treczoks@lemm.ee 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I don’t have one either

Well, then stop blaming politicians.

[–] quarry_coerce248@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I'm starting to blame you for deliberately not understanding me. I ask you what to do and you just repeat that I should do. But what?? How could I be any clearer? I'm not blaming politicians either in this thread.

[–] Treczoks@lemm.ee 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Sorry, but I cannot help you decide what you want. Maybe it is time to think about that first.

What are your personal goals in life? How could you achieve them, what would be the path or paths to your goal?

Then you might find some political group that matches those paths or even goals. But finding clarity is something you need first and foremost. Anything else is "just" a consequence.

[–] quarry_coerce248@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

What do my personal goals have to do with anything? I want a society based on solidarity, justice, human rights, democracy and without discrimination. More and more people vote and voice support for nationalism, social darwinism, fascism and suppression of diversity. I know perfectly well what I want. I take offense that others don't want my goals and actively want to criminalize me, suppress my rights and more and more openly kill me.

So tell me how do I get my neighbors and fellow citizen to choose peace and love instead of hate and cruelty?

If I knew the path, I'd go it. That's the point you stubbornly refuse to engage with.

[–] Treczoks@lemm.ee 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I don't "subbornly refuse to engage with" it. I cannot help you to find your personal path to your goals.

[–] quarry_coerce248@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You can stop insisting that this is my personal problem for a start. Are you fine with the rise of fascism? What are you doing against it and how do you believe is it going to work when it hasn't all those past years?

[–] Treczoks@lemm.ee 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You can stop insisting that this is my personal problem for a start.

What you do is inherently your personal problem.

Are you fine with the rise of fascism?

I am definitely not fine with that.

What are you doing against it and how do you believe is it going to work when it hasn’t all those past years?

What I can do, I do, and what makes you believe it has no impact? You don't know what I do, and, for a number of reasons, I'm not going to make public what I do.

[–] quarry_coerce248@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

So you think what you do is good, but you don't want others to help you do good by saying what you do and inviting others to do the same? Is it only good if you do it secretly?

[–] Treczoks@lemm.ee 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

What the heck is your problem? Are you unable to do something by yourself? Can't you be bothered to think on your own? EOD.

[–] quarry_coerce248@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I'm doing a lot myself. I just want you to admit that you have no idea yourself and are giving unsolicited and totally useless advice. Because you have not said anything of value in this whole thread and you are entirely incapable of understanding your own cluelessness.

[–] Treczoks@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago

Ah, so you are just an asshole, not an idiot. OK, I get it.

I'll still do my things, do whatever you think helps best, like pissing off people with the same goals.