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[โ€“] roboticide@lemmy.world 46 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Here is some additional context from an actual Mod of AdviceAnimals:

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I've inquired if they're the one that phoned the Admins, but no reply yet. Having a top mod removed due to them unilaterally taking a sub private is not unprecedented, but it is an incredibly rare action.

EDIT: That user has confirmed they did not contact the Admins, and don't know who did, but that is still consistent with actions taken by Admins in the past to remove an absentee top moderator that made a unilateral move more active mods disagreed with.

[โ€“] Favor@beehaw.org 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Additional additional context: The absentee head mod (legweed) returned a week before the protests and made a thread for all the mods of the sub to discuss whether to do a blackout. Basically nobody else meaningfully interacted except for the a single mod who was vehemently against it (CedarWolf), the same mod that was promoted by the admins.

The users of the sub overwhelmingly supported the blackout, but CedarWolf was involved in mass comment/post removals and bannings of pro-blackout content in the leadup. This included mod convo posts literally saying the community can't make the decision for themselves and that they (CedarWolf) know what's best for the community. At the same time legweed was trying to get other mods opinions but nobody actually responded until legweed make a stickied post to engage the community. This upset CedarWolf as he'd been spending most of his time suppressing those same conversations from happening.

I'm not saying an absentee mod should be able to show up an unilaterally private a sub, but in this case they were showing up to engage the community and the community was the one who asked to have it privated. None of the other mods really cared enough to argue, the one anti-blackout person was basically alone in their opinion and is equally responsible for a unilateral decision, except that one went against the community wishes.

Sure legweed was an absentee head mod, but CedarWolf wasn't just active, he's terminally online and has a really nasty superiority complex. I don't think either is really head mod material but one sided with the admins and now they have the unilateral control they had already tried to exercise prior.

Source/Context:

https://old.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/147eaw3/rsubredditdrama_is_in_restricted_mode_for_the/jo0eoqw/

https://imgur.com/ChkGJG3

[โ€“] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

Unsurprising that some power tripping mods aren't willing to give up their little fiefdom

[โ€“] average650@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is certainly a different story, but still, admin taking action here is not super common.

Perhaps we should start a new post with this new information to discuss?

[โ€“] roboticide@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't really know it's worth a new post, because I don't think this information really changes what we will see happen, which is realistically three things:

  1. Subs that didn't commit to an indefinite protest are already coming back online, like /r/technology. Admins will be happy with that and do nothing.
  2. Subs that did commit to an indefinite protest but didn't do so unanimously will have lower mods reach out to Admins to get higher mods removed, and open the subs back up. This is what happened with Advice Animals.
  3. Subs that did commit to an indefinite protest and did do so unanimously will have old mod teams removed and new mod teams put in. If they do this, they will probably do it later, and while there may be some uproar, anybody who really cares about this by then will probably have already left reddit.

The fact that it was not super common previously doesn't mean it won't become more common, especially as precedent was set year ago.

[โ€“] average650@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Well, I say that because each of those three situations is different. 1 does not add to the scumminess. 2 is borderline, but if mods are fighting over this, it does make sense for admins to step in. They are the only one with the power to settle that. But 3.... that's just absolute scum.

The added info moved the advice animals case from 3 to 2 for me, and changes the situation. Have we seen 3 happen yet? I do expect it will happen, but has it happened?

[โ€“] manitcor@lemmy.intai.tech 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[โ€“] roboticide@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lol, now I kind of wish you hadn't. The subreddit I got this from is private and it got enough attention to get me banned for leaking. Whelp...

[โ€“] manitcor@lemmy.intai.tech 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

lol oops, tbf, i told you what I would do

sorry though.

[โ€“] roboticide@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Since the text has been copied at this point from another source, mind deleting the image?

[โ€“] manitcor@lemmy.intai.tech 1 points 1 year ago

think ill do the image and the post, i posted this here because lemmy.world looked like a big gen discussion the other day.

[โ€“] Clipboards@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Your diligence is appreciated!!