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[–] random65837@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Im 100% against the way Apple implemented that system, but as a consumer, there SHOULD be a non invasive, not nagging way for the phone to tell me that it detects shitbag garbage Chinese parts that'll most likely break on me.

The amount of phones in the used market loaded with trash parts that die on people are very real. I've gambled on 2 screens myself for older phones I just wanted to keep alive, both failed, one totally, one can't do multi touch anymore, both within 6mo. I knew the chance I was taking, a buyer on eBay or Swappa wouldn't have, especially if I left that out of the description.

[–] nadram@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's a great idea and can be implemented in the security app or a simple menu in your settings.

[–] tabular@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Except, how can it tell you how good a part is? Why would I trust what the original manufacturer has to say about it's competition?

The system to judge a part is between our ears.

[–] flatlined@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A warning sign ("this phone has a third party screen") could be useful, so long as it's just that, a notification in the settings somewhere. Then it's up to me to decide whether I care or not. All it does is give me more information, the judgment on it is my own.

I'd prefer it if it did that for all parts. New third party screen? Notice. New first party screen? Also give notice. Then i know what was repaired or replaced. Even better if it should list when it was replaced, and perhaps the specs of the replacement part.

I like this. Like a digital equivalent to how a car's VIN is stamped on a bunch of different parts all over the car so a different buyer can tell if it's been wrecked and repaired.

[–] nadram@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Right. They don't have to give you an opinion about the quality, just that it's not an original part. The rest is up to the user

[–] Pat_Riot@lemmy.today 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What exactly do you think your Apple phone is made of in the first place?

[–] random65837@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

LOL, never dealt with China manufacturing huh? I'd assume you're not foolish enough to compare the plants making things FOR Apple, vs the knockoff shops that are selling displays for $80.

[–] Pat_Riot@lemmy.today 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If I buy components I buy extra and test them myself before use. I don't buy anything used that I can get new and I test before I use. Now my hobbies seldom require me to play with surface mount, and i don't need displays for anything, but I'm plenty familiar with ordering from one end of the QC department or the other. All that said, you have a far higher opinion of Apple than I do.

[–] random65837@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No sure what you're basing anything of that on, my opinion of Apple is that they suck shit. None of that has anything to do with their products are made right and with quality, vs cut rate shit that breaks constantly.

[–] Pat_Riot@lemmy.today 1 points 1 year ago

I've owned two things produced by them. Both were trash out of the box, but perhaps I got "Monday " built devices both times. One came to me as a gift one I bought because my kid asked for it. Both were returned and I have not looked at an apple product since. My only experience is that they are knock offs of themselves and at their price point someone should be ashamed of themselves. My opinion of your opinion stands downvote me again if you want.

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That would require capitalists to want to protect your investment. That's not how capitalists think.

[–] random65837@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Ignore the truth all you want. What was the technology invented for? It's FULLY capable of doing what you ask.

Why doesn't it? Because it was made to protect profits, not the end buyer. Yea it sucks, but ignoring it means it will be even worse the next time I have to point it out to your ignorant ass.

[–] random65837@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not interested in your Socialist ramblings. I'm sorry you failed in life and therefor need to constantly cry about businesses, all while probably expecting to be paid for your work. Unless you don't work for pay and only volunteer, don't bitch about people making money.

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Funny how you go to person insults. Sad. Pathetic. Stay ignorant, you won't be spared.

[–] random65837@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Funny how you shoehorn your hatred for capitalism into a conversation that not talking about that. "Sad, pathetic".....

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Your inability to wrestle with reality will not help.

[–] random65837@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ya, damn reality. Like that if businesses don't make money, they go out of business. Or that when that happens people lose jobs. Without jobs thwy can't live. Or even better, when both of those happen your socialist house of cards also crumbles because then people can't be taxed at 4x the rate to pay for all that "free" stuff they "give" you.

Stupid reality.....

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not the point I made, but then you've already proven to be too stupid to listen.

[–] random65837@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You took an unrealated thing and decide to start and anticapitalist rant, your "point" was very clear.

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Yep, you're still not paying attention. Sad.