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[–] ISOmorph@feddit.de -2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I'm in the same boat. I feel like most new games that come out that aren't a clever indy title or on par with Witcher 3 need to be perpetually shit on. People were kinder when Fallout 4 released, while it was buggier than starfield at launch, and also has disjointed mechanics und a subpar story. I personally enjoyed Starfield more as well but both are more than ok games.

[–] BananaTrifleViolin@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's how hyped it was and expectations set by Skyrim. Starfield was seen as the next step on from Skyrim in terms of game scale, and Bethesda hyped it up as their biggest and best game ever. It's neither of those things.

Also frankly in terms of RPGs, it feels dated. Witcher 3 set a new bar for what an RPG should be, but Starfield doesn't seem to have learnt those lessons. Baldurs Gate 3 has also set a high bar for RPGs this year, and Cyberpunk 2077 (for all its own flaws) also set a high bar for RPGs.

Starfield is an ok game but when it's hyped as it going to be the greatest game ever from Bethesda and going to be biggest game of the year, I'm not surprised it's being shat on when it turns out it's not.

But hopefully Starfield will be an important bump on the road for Bethesda. Bigger is not necessarily better and hopefully that lesson will carry in to Elder Scrolls VI.

[–] verysoft@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Witcher was also bug riddled and still is. The combat was sloppy as shit, but the story was great and it wasn't a pain to just stick to it, so the game worked overall. Starfield is just an expanse of nothing with a subpar plot and nothing to do but build on empty moons. Bethesda should have took the time to either adopt/adapt/create a new engine, I don't know how much longer they can go just patching the creation engine.

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Witcher 3 had boring slow combat and an awful magic system.

To me that is more important than a good story.

Plus, it wasn't an RPG the same way Tomb Raider isn't one. Because you aren't playing a role.

Witcher 3 is an open-world adventure game, not an RPG.

[–] verysoft@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

I agree, couldnt get through the game myself, ended up watching it on the side. Was just trying to be fair to it (but I secretly think it was very overrated).

[–] BolexForSoup@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

People on forums were not kind to fallout 4 lol but I enjoyed it a lot.

[–] chunkystyles@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I enjoyed FO4 a lot myself. I enjoyed Starfield more.

[–] BolexForSoup@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

See I’m the opposite currently. I got about five hours into starfield and found myself supremely bored. The mystery is interesting but it’s just not enough for me to look past the stuff I’m not enjoying. I’m giving it like 12 months and waiting for some good mods to come out before I dive back in (though apparently Bethesda has dropped the ball on mod support so it might take a little longer). I’m sure there’s a game I would enjoy at some point, but right now I’m just not mentally there and I’m not enjoying what is offered

[–] cyanarchy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Fallout 4 is fun to explore. I can still get lost in its world. There's nothing interesting to find in starfield and it's all locked behind the same sequence of jump drives, loading screens, and barren landscapes.