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The world has experienced its hottest day on record, according to meteorologists.

The average global temperature reached 17.01C (62.62F) on Monday, according to the US National Centres for Environmental Prediction.

The figure surpasses the previous record of 16.92C (62.46F) - set back in August 2016.

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[–] geissi@feddit.de 7 points 1 year ago (15 children)

nuclear plants that are shut off are almost always replaced with fossils, with the specific fossil fuel of choice often being coal.

Being from Germany, I have often read such arguments and at least here that is simply not true.
The decrease in nuclear power was accompanied by a decrease in fossil fuel.
Could that decrease have been larger if nuclear had been kept around longer? Possibly.
But if we are talking about building new power plants, the money is typically better invested in renewables. They're faster to build and produce cheaper energy.

[–] Azrael@fosstodon.org 3 points 1 year ago (5 children)
[–] geissi@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I'm not sure what the point is.
German Electricity is dirtier than France's therefor no other sources of electricity exist beyond coal and nuclear?
That would be a weird conclusion seeing as both countries also use other power sources.

[–] Azrael@fosstodon.org -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

@geissi
except from countries lucky enought to get a lot of electric damn, there is no example of countries having a stable network mainly reliying on renewable energy production, because they are not stable. Doing so requires a lot of new powerlines, storage solutions, ... and at the end may still be unreliable during winter / summer peaks. Its is much easier to have a mix with the fundamental ensured by a drivable power plant and there are two ""clean"" choices: water and nuclear.

[–] geissi@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Its is much easier to have a mix

A mix of more than just coal and nuclear, right?
So other power sources do exits and we should use them?

[–] Azrael@fosstodon.org -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@geissi
of course a mix including renewable, there are a lot of prevision plan on what the best mix should be and fine tuning is hard, but it always include renewable in a large way. I argue to avoid gas and coal as much as possible, and using nuclear instead. Plus renewable of course.

[–] geissi@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago

And that is all I'm arguing for.

The original comment said, people who disregard nuclear are burning coal, I claim you can use other energy sources as well.
Nothing more.

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