you just put that into perspective for me. I had always understood trolling in the older sense of the word, which is deliberately saying anything to get a rise out of people. Like pretending to be stupid, or pretending to be new in a forum when you've actually been there a while, asking dumb questions, or deliberately acting annoying. But now you're right. It just means any sort of insult or any kind of talk that isn't perfectly civil. That's why we get called trolls then, it's because we don't play that game where the first person to become uncivil automatically loses the argument.