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[–] jeremyparker@programming.dev 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm no apologist but literally the country of Germany let that dude do all that shit but we've kinda let the whole country off the hook for that at this point, seeing how it was a really long time ago and the people involved aren't in charge anymore.

Have you seen their offices from the 1970s? It's like wall to wall Eames chairs. IBM deserves another chance.

[–] xantoxis@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

No, look, you're not wrong. I'm not saying modern IBM is responsible for the holocaust or something like that. But:

  1. It's important that people know the context of this company. Even if the executive team has followed the eightfold path and achieved enlightenment, what the context informs you about is why this should matter to IBM, why they might be responding to Musk.
  2. Corollary to #1, an awful lot of companies took the hint over a year ago and fled Twitter then, so I think we can fairly ask, why does a company with this history not react immediately and in the strongest terms to any hint of white supremacist bullshit. If they want to show us they've changed and should be completely let off the hook, there should be people working there whose entire job is "make sure IBM is never implicated with Nazis again". God knows they can afford it.
  3. The whole interaction gives us something to think about; less about IBM and more about Musk, as in, how low has he sunk that even IBM is finally reacting?