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Senior men have higher rates of suicide than average, and firearms were involved in more than three-quarters of those deaths in 2021, according to a CDC report

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[–] BeMoreCareful@lemdro.id 50 points 1 year ago (3 children)

“There’s too much identity tied up in one’s work, so that is lost [after retirement]. And then there’s the cultural script of what maleness means in in our culture, so men just won’t admit or won’t receive care for depression because of that sense that it’s somehow not what a man does.”

What use is a cog that can't cog anymore? Caring for elders is not built into our value system and not protected by our economic system.

Hell, it may be the only way to retire in a few more years.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Maybe it isn't about caring for them maybe it's about teaching them to live with what they have. The skills for being retired are different than the skills of working. The skills of taking care of grandchildren are different than children.

We just sorta assume people know what to do when they get a certain age and maybe that isn't a valid assumption. I am just thinking of an uncle I had whose health just crashed right after he stopped working. He didn't add physical or mental work to make up for not working anymore. As opposed to some elderly I know who have loaded up the hobbies.

[–] starbreaker@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What use is a cog that can’t cog anymore? Caring for elders is not built into our value system and not protected by our economic system.

Also, what good is "care for depression" when the causes of depression aren't a "chemical imbalance" but having to live in a partriarchal capitalist society that only values men for what they can provide?

[–] letsgocrazy@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What if constantly calling a system that fails men "the patriarchy" was part of the problem?

What if calling a system that blames all men for a system that benefits a tiny elite was a large reason why so many men are totally dead disenfranchised with the concept? If there was even a one percent chance that was true - would you stop it doing it?

[–] starbreaker@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What would you suggest instead? The "kyriarchy"? The "military-industrial-congressional complex"? How about getting fisted by the invisible hand of the market?

[–] Jako301@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago

It's a plutocracy, pretty much the textbook definition of it.

[–] letsgocrazy@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Why would I have to choose a name that specifically targets one demographic?

When are the Internet revolutionaries going to realise that choosing solutions that deliberately create division will... Wait for it... Create division.

How are you going to solve problems when you're literally motivating people to resist you?