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It's the dunk tank.

This is where you come to post big-brained hot takes by chuds, libs, or even fellow leftists, and tear them to itty-bitty pieces with precision dunkstrikes.

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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

It doesn't matter. The point is that it works.

And because it works, we should be doing everything to facilitate making it happen more and eliminating barriers to it. I don't give a shit what it's called as long as we take away the methods of preventing it, because it benefits us and not the right.

In my experience, reactionaries are really good at following "the letter of the law" when they're doing the "bullying".

Nah they're dogshit at it. This just amounts to concern trolling, which is extremely easily moderated for what it is.

Honestly don't know why you spend so long arguing against this. Feels very stubborn. Waste of time. Like... Ffs just feels like everything drags out way longer than necessary with you when just "yep that's right" would've got us here much much faster. Feels really... Reddity. Debate for the sake of time wasting debate. Devil's advocate bullshit. I know you want leftist shit so get out of the way and help instead. Choo choo

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sorry if I knew that the only way this discussion can end in good terms is for me to agree with your on everything, I wouldn't have engaged.

You have your methods that fit you as a person. I have my methods that fit me and how I see the world. There's a reason I'm not a hexbear. It's OK to be different. It's OK to disagree on praxis so long as it's complementary. I won't try to stop you from bullying, but I also can't be bullied into adopting your praxis.

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
[–] ademir@lemmy.eco.br 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What is this picture supposed to mean? I think /u/db0 has a good point. Both methods are valid for different cases. There is nothing wrong with it.

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

The guy's a wrecker. I'm glad I don't share an office with him because I suspect being his colleague every single discussion would be exactly like this where he takes up a contrarian position on literally everything to just be a fucking contrarian.

There is precisely zero benefit to the left with being against ""brigading"". It solely harms us. Provides zero benefits. And empowers the right.

This is not difficult to understand, absolutely zero argument against it in terms of strategic benefits to the left has been presented. Whether this fool realises it or not he is a textbook example of this 1944 guide written by the CIA on how to sabotage meetings in organisations:

Wrecker is too soft a word for this shit. I'm absolutely done with tolerating him.

[–] ademir@lemmy.eco.br 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

wrecker

I might sound really stupid, but what does it means. I feel it is not meant literally.

Anyway, my personal moto is peace between us, war to the lords. I think you and /u/db0 are valuable people in spreading the word against capitalism.

[–] LesbianLiberty@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago

That's a very kind perspective, but naive to the struggle we face. The world needs to be liberated and db0 is practicing the ancient tradition of an anarchist having absolutely none of the scientific and social basis that makes leftists powerful. Every day wasted is another in which billions suffer; handwringing etc shows that it's not about any real praxis but instead personal "liberal" values which always fail to bring positive change. Db0 means well in the same way a politician does when they vote to support Israel.

[–] sharedburdens@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

In the interaction I had earlier, the issue raised with the KKE was because they had used their security to stop people from storming parliament in one of their protests against austerity in 2011 (link) sounds a lot like they stopped 'brigading'. (TBH I would also be in support of storming parliament at this point)

[–] CthulhusIntern@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's from a meme, in which in that panel, he usually says "Jesse, what the fuck are you talking about?"

[–] ademir@lemmy.eco.br 6 points 1 year ago

It’s from a meme, in which in that panel, he usually says “Jesse, what the fuck are you talking about?”

Thanks!