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[–] TrontheTechie@infosec.pub 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You probably got downvoted for saying that the thing that is necessary to exist in the world today without having to constantly deal with legal or systemic troubles related to homelessness is a good investment.

I doubt anyone was offended by you saying you get paid to take pictures of houses.

I’m guessing you have never had to deal with the dependency hell that is existing as a homeless person in a country like the US.

Did you know that if you don’t have an address in many states that you are unable to get a license or ID? Did you know that if you don’t have an ID you are ineligible to work in the United States? Did you know that you could try to establish your ID again by getting your birth certificate and SS mailed to you if only you had an address? Did you know that the advice to get a P.O. Box is only useful if you have two forms of Identification 1 photo, and 1 non-photo?

As someone who is queer and had to escape an abusive situation with my parents I am intimately familiar with the invisible pit falls that homelessness causes people and how the entire system has been designed to make you a 3rd class citizen, if you can even prove your citizenship at all.

[–] ki77erb@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
[–] TrontheTechie@infosec.pub 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We can look at this two ways, either you are wildly out of touch with your advice and don’t realize it when you saythings like “Actually it’s cheaper to own than rent, maybe ya’ll should talk to a mortgage broker and start investing” as if it’s some new revelation none of us have thought about with the millions of dollars of advertising telling us to take on a credit pull and try getting a mortgage anyway because “you never know” and how “rocket mortgage makes it easier than ever” or we can say that everyone else is out of touch because they just didn’t think to even TRY.

The first option offers no harm or harsh judgement to anyone, the second option has you as some sole arbiter of financial understanding while everyone else is just too incompetent to talk to a banker or apply for a loan and would rather squander their money trying to survive instead of building equity.

I figured you would appreciate understanding why what you said took a hit, especially considering your “looks like Reddit finally moved in” deflection taking the blame from you, and putting it on some brain dead hive mind to save ego.

Please don’t take this as an attack. I do appreciate the thoughtful response from you.

[–] ki77erb@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
[–] TrontheTechie@infosec.pub 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I didn’t imply people were incompetent, I just said in as few words as possible that they lack the skills or experience to do what I did, and I’ll point them in the right direction by giving them the literal baby’s first step of go talk to a banker just in case they hadn’t thought of that yet.

Sure…

Incompetent: not having or showing the necessary skills to do something successfully.

Anyway, as much as I’d like to split hairs over the difference between an implication and a subtextual inference I don’t think there is any value in this continuing.

I hope you have a good Friday.

[–] ki77erb@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
[–] TrontheTechie@infosec.pub 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yeah sure, you started off the thread with the condescending “actually, it’s cheaper to own than rent, just talk with a banker” we get all the way to the bottom where you tell me how I’m supposed to interpret your words, and when I’ve had enough and decide to point it out to you and draw the line around it to highlight to you where you did in fact imply XYZ, instead of saying something like “I didn’t mean to imply… I should be more careful with my wording” you tell me I’m condescending to you and being rude and insulting you, again, to save your own ego. After all, the fault can’t be you, it has to be external.

Edit: they tucked tail and ran, blamed it all on “trying to be serious in a meme community” as if everyone was replying to them with copypasta’s and jokes instead of serious rebuttals to their whining about downvotes.

[–] ki77erb@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I didn't "tuck my tail and run away" I deleted my comments because arguing with someone who attacks people for offering advice and then says "please don't take this as an attack" is pointless and futile. I tried to be kind and respectful to you but you're a condescending asshole and you think by psycho analyzing me you can make yourself appear superior. Good luck with that.

[–] TrontheTechie@infosec.pub 2 points 1 year ago

Attacking people? What are you even on about? Where in this whole thread did I attack you? What did I do?

Did I tell you you have such shit for brains ISIS would pray to god for 100 more of you so they could make a desert oasis from the manure after the beheading? Did I tell you you are less useful than a paper bag from McDonald's, because at least you can get the food back out from there? I know, I must've insulted you and your mom by saying she paid the hospital to NOT put you on her chest after the delivery! Maybe I said you had as much utility as a screen door on the titan sub? Fuck off with this victim mentality bullshit.

Psychoanalysis? What psychoanalysis? What Mental Illness do you think I think I'm 'helping' you with? Am I helping you resurface repressed memories and work through trauma?

You say this is all pointless yet here you are again, after you totally didn't tuck tail and run and delete all the thread, but instead deleted it because arguing with me was pointless, but here you still fucking are. Having to get one more word in the argument because you totally didn't run away, you're just tired of arguing now, but have to let everyone know you in fact didn't run away, you very bravely stood your ground with this one last defiant message to the big ugly meanie.

If you had a modicum of self reflection you wouldn't even be here anymore, but then again the thread would've ended when you bragged about buying a house 10 years ago, got downvoted to oblivion, then had someone tell you "Yeah house prices have raised dramatically in the past 10 years". You could have reflected back, said, you know, maybe it is quite different a decade later, maybe I don't quite know what these people are struggling against. Instead you keep doubling down, and keep doubling down, until finally someone had to call you on your mental gymnastics, then you start crying that the big meanie just attacked you out of the blue for no reason.

I bet you can't let this one sit either, but you'll totally not come back to argue, just clarify a point /s