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2020 was... truly unique. It was so hard to stay away from doom scrolling, and I (and many others) were pretty disillusioned by the sad fact that so much of our country legitimately supported the Orange Man. I didn't get a wink of sleep the night of the election because I genuinely considered it to be a make or break decision for America.

My point is that looking back on it, in the end the only real difference I made was at the ballet box. This year I'm going for the Head-in-the-Sand approach. I'm done with the political memes. Done with the Twitter screenshots. It just riles me up and this year I'm gonna do my best to fight that.

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[–] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 147 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Unless he dies, I'm voting Biden. I don't like him, but, best option.

Truly hoping Cheeto chimp gets thrown in jail and disqualified.

I've tried to avoid news well before anyway.

[–] Joker@discuss.tchncs.de 107 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If Trump is the Republican nominee I would vote for Biden even if he was dead.

[–] PeleSpirit@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Honestly, which one of the other candidates would you vote for in Trump's stead? All of them suck and kiss trump's ass.

[–] Joker@discuss.tchncs.de 21 points 1 year ago (3 children)

None of them this time around. Christie is a moderate, but he will be out pretty soon. I’m surprised he’s hung on this long, although I’m happy that he has because he and Hutchinson are the only ones with the guts to tell the truth about Trump. Hutchinson hasn’t been polling high enough to be in the debates, but at least he’s on the sidelines saying Trump is trash.

Out of the declared candidates, my preference would probably be Christie or Haley as the nominee. I still wouldn’t vote for them, but they would be better than the others if the Republicans somehow win.

Overall, it’s a pretty piss poor field on both sides. If Biden was 15 years younger I would consider it a pretty solid ticket.

I hope Antony Blinken eventually runs. For me, he’s the brightest star in a pretty solid administration. Best Secretary of State in decades.

[–] PeleSpirit@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I realize you said this, but I still have to clarify what a dumpster fire that whole field is on that side.

I still wouldn’t vote for them, but they would be better than the others if the Republicans somehow win.

Christie is as petty as trump, he held up ambulances and shit to get back at someone. He also let his employees take the blame for him for that. He shut down a beach and decided it was a good idea to take himself and his family to his own private beach. The only reason he stands up to trump is because he wasn't picked as trump's vp. He's a POS, imo.

Haley seems to still have ties to russia: https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/haley-us-forces-align-countries-including-russia-campaign-99816163 I knew she did, but she still does too. Plus, she's a woman, there's no way in hell she'll get enough votes.

I don't know anything about Blinken, I'll look into it.

[–] dingus@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

He may be as petty as Trump, but at least he has never planned a coup to overthrow the freaking government. A Republican willing to call out Trump for his bullshit is better than those that continue to lick his asshole imo. Sure it's a low bar to meet and Christie has a whole other bag of problems, but sadly most don't seem to get to that bar.

[–] Ashyr@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

Christie only did that because there’s literally no other way to make himself stand out from other Republicans.

[–] prole@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Christie is a piece of shit. Ask anyone alive in Jersey during his tenure. Fuck that guy, he should be in fucking prison. There are people literally serving time behind some shit he did.

[–] Joker@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 1 year ago

Just goes to show how bad the rest of the field is when he’s the voice of reason on the debate stage.

[–] OceanSoap@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Haley is literally a war monger. She stated she wanted us to get into 3 active wars, with China, Russia and Iran.

You would vote for the candidate who is most likely to start WW3???

[–] Joker@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 year ago

No. I said I would not vote for her, although I view her as less problematic than Trump, Ramaswamy and DeSantis. It’s a terrible field. I mean, you’ve got a fascist, a racist and whatever the hell kind of nutcase Ramaswamy is. It’s hard to get on a stage with DeSantis and be the bigger asshole. Haley is none of those things so that’s a start. One of these people has to be the nominee.

[–] atlasraven31@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] PeleSpirit@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sure, if you want to waste time and vote as if you didn't vote at all.

[–] atlasraven31@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

That's how it typically goes.

[–] popcap200@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago
[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

best take. Dems don't follow Biden religiously. He's just better than the godawful alternatives that are on the otherside.

I will stay informed on the issues, but unless the GOP does a 180 on about most of their platform I'm kinda forced to vote Dem (Stop denying climate change, stop trying to de-humanize LGBTQ, stop the culture war shit, come up with a real gun control plan, those would be a start). Hooray 2 party system.

I just turn off the news now, all sources are meant to keep us angry in an "us vs them" situation and never really talk about the real issues, so instead of it just flare up my anxiety and anger I'm just going to keep my headphones on and play games. Someone ping me if suddenly the GOP decides to be pro-humanity again and I need to reconsider my vote.

[–] paddirn@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

I hate that I’ve been forced into this same position, I always thought I was open-minded and didn’t follow parties, but when the choice is a literal fascist trying to tear American democracy apart with the worst takes on every position and a generic semi-left-leaning politician trying to maintain the status quo… I guess I’ll just stick with generic status quo, that’s pretty much the only rational choice for a sane individual. Even just sitting out the election isn’t an ethical choice, that’s surrendering to fascism.

[–] Nollij@sopuli.xyz 10 points 1 year ago

If he were to die after the ballots are set but before the election, it effectively becomes a vote for his running mate. Still getting my vote over the dollar-store fuhrer.

[–] hellweaver666@discuss.tchncs.de -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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