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[–] renata@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Like, no offense but you're imagining these big name players because you don't know the ins and outs of the sports industry.

What the fuck are you talking about? This is just annoying because I am in fact interested in sports and do follow them closely in a number of circumstances. You've clearly made up your mind on the subject using a web of interconnected and unrelated concepts about womens' sports funding to include your squeamishness about trans women. You're no comrade of mine and I long for the days when you'd already be long gone from this site.

someone's who's played American football at a high collegiate level and then transitioned would have years of game experience at a far higher game standard. Schools put a stupid amount of money and scholarships into their American football squads. It's not just game experience either, it's a game being played at a much faster speed, against bigger players, with longer kicks and passes. Then you move to the women's game. You don't retain your physical advantages, but you do retain all of that.

edit: like i don't know why i'm wasting my time but the above is a complete non sequitur. First of all, somebody transitioning after playing at the NCAA level in American football is perhaps the least likely transitioner in the US, just glossing over the social dynamics completely. Second, there is no major professional American football league for cis women in the US. Third, most of what that person gained physically would be lost with HRT outside of cardiovascular health provided they kept up their regimen. The training would still be there, sure, but that's not doing anything in a game of fucking pool.

Yeah there's stuff to be said about underfunding of womens' sports in general and that deserves its own conversation. But. In the youth sports that we're talking about (going off your key socialization argument) there is more difference between the men's high school football team's funding and the men's any-other-sport than there is men's any-other-sport to women's any-other-sport.

You've built a universally applicable fear off of society's failures towards women generally and implicated trans women as specifically dangerous because of those dynamics. That's fucked.

[–] Orannis62@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago

Hear fucking hear