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Fedora's telemetry is planned to be OPT-OUT (lemmy.world)
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https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/55H3DT5CCL73HLMQJ6DK63KCAHZWO7SX/

However, we also want to ensure that the data we collect is meaningful, so gnome-initial-setup will default to displaying the toggle as enabled,even though the underlying setting will initially be disabled. (The underlying setting will not actually be enabled until the user finishes the privacy page, to ensure users have the opportunity to disable the setting before any data is uploaded.) This is to ensure the system is opt-out, not opt-in. This is essential because we know that opt-in metrics are not very useful. Few users would opt in, and these users would not be representative of Fedora users as a whole. We are not interested in opt-in metrics.

Essentially they're playing with words to say it's opt in but if you just click Next like most users will do, it'll be enabled. The developer openly admits few users would opt in and complains that it wouldn't be useful.

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[–] fhein@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

but if you just click Next like most users will do, it’ll be enabled

That's the definition of opt-out, so they're telling the truth :) Opt-out is the worse alternative when it comes to unwanted features, opt-in would have been better.

[–] Gecko@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Opt-out helps you capture the group of users that simply do not care about telemetry.

As someone who recently started developing an open-source GUI application for a few thousand users I cannot stress enough how instrumental telemetry has been in fixing a variety of crashes.

[–] Secret300@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

It's still a proposal if you have more to say about opt-in/opt-out specifically they made a new thread to discuss it here