Discovery and Picard are just bad shows to me, especially Picard. It annoys me when people try to reduce criticism to just not liking something new. The Abrams movies and Discovery depart from previous iterations in some really important ways to the point that they don't feel like the same franchise anymore.

Also really annoys me when people bring up some of the TNG movies to "prove" that old trek did some of the same annoying things, when those movies are also bad and widely criticized.

I do like SNW though. Better than Enterprise and probably Voyager as well.