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[–] SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not only that, but then have the hate be called "reasonable debate"

As if we aren't actual real people that just want to exist in the world. It's like you have to fight against the fucking river in making anyone even believe you that what they are seeing is hate, transphobia.

We're simply not treated like real people in these debates, and it's frustrating and exhausting. If they faced the same treatment you would bet they would protest severely.

But I guess that is also the case for cis women in the abortion debate. I guess the debate being about half of the population still isn't enough for empathy.

[–] Drivebyhaiku@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Pretty real stuff. A feels like lot of people just want to punch through us to hit somebody on the other side. I can't say I like the way they frame things about parents rights either. It's like they want to own their children like property not just be a major influence in their lives. The lack of empathy doesn't even really extend to their own flesh and blood much less us.

My hometown's council is like a microcosm of the whole thing. A vocal group storms the trustee meetings to rail on and on about how we need to Protect children from gender ideology, they run over their alloted time so nobody can get any regular business done and the board turns their mic off so they can just function as a government. The "spurned Conservatives" then go to the local paper and tell everyone that their freedom of speech was unjustly curtailed because a hypocritical progressive turned their mic off. The paper prints the story uncritically and all of a sudden we're a threat to freedom of speech and democracy... They then turn around and say "I'm not transphobic" as though they didn't just paint us as bogeyman who are dangerous to be around women, kids, polling stations, government, pens and paper etc. etc. etc.

Some days it's just a lot.