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  1. We're trying to improving working conditions and pay.

  2. We're trying to reduce the numbers of hours a person has to work.

  3. We talk about the end of paid work being mandatory for survival.

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The Association of American Railroads, which represents freight railway operators, said its members have been hiring in recent years to address staffing needs and recognize employees' desire for better scheduling. The group said the number of overtime hours worked by BMWE union members increased to 4.7 hours per week in 2022, compared to 4 hours in 2016.

Cory Ludwig, who works as a machine operator repairing railway tracks in Iowa, said he’s been working Saturdays and some Sundays along with 10- to 12-hour shifts since September. Recently, he worked 13 days without a day off. With the mandatory Saturday work, he’s had to rely on friends and relatives to take care of his five-year-old and nine-year-old kids. He said the overtime demands have increased as he’s seen the number of workers assigned to his crew go down.

“You fall asleep and then you wake up in the morning and you go right back to work. It can really break a person down, it gets really wearing on a person after a while,” Ludwig said. “With less people trying to do the same amount of work, working long hours, working multiple weeks in a row without one day off, you get irritated and you get burnt out.”

Recently one of the union’s members had been working 22 hours straight when he fell asleep on the job, an error that could have put his colleagues’ lives at risk but also could have been avoided had the employee had a rest period, said Ballew. Another member was recently disciplined for refusing to work through his scheduled days off on short notice so he could care for a family member having health issues, Ballew said.

“The stress it puts on marriages and parenting and the things you leave behind for your spouse to deal with or the things you miss, that kind of stress builds up,” said Ballew. “In the rail industry, we have noticed recently a spat of suicides and I can’t help but think there is a correlation there.”

Thank God Biden stopped the railroad strike!

I swear if I hear another fucker say that the railroad workers got everything they wanted because Biden helped them negotiate I'll lose it.

Good thing I voted for the lesser evil in 2020! Gosh if I had stuck to principles we'd have had a genocide or something 😒

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[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Well of course they don't mention the actual health consequences of the pandemic (that never actually ended) - that would make the money line sad!

[–] Starglasses@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Are cheeky responses like this hindering progress? It's nothing about you, I just want to speak about this trend that is everywhere and I guess here is where I start.

Read comically, yea, it is funny to laugh about how terrible something is. But it sucks the serious nature of the topic away and now it's a joke.

Considering a significant amount of people browse just headlines and top comments, everything is a joke. No one is actually talking about anything.

Again, not you in any way. Yours is one of the millions of normalized joke-respones the internet has conditioned us to.

We are beholden to the system, so at least laugh about it. But then take it down too.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

We joke because we're too demoralized to be angry anymore. Outrage and tragedy takes a lot out of us, eventually we burn out and resort to gallows humor. I don't think that's what's hindering progress though!

It's the evil motherfuckers in the ruling class that hinder progress. They murder us to maximize profits because we're nothing but meat to them.

[–] Starglasses@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I get it %100. I'm not meaning to target you as a bad actor or any of the people saying these things, because you're totally right that all we have power over is laughing about the corruption.

My curiosity is if our collective "well shit, that's how it is haha" is a negative feedback loop discouraging a ny action

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think you're putting the cart before the horse. Mockery is the result of helplessness, I don't think it causes it. It's a coping mechanism.

Take that away and people would just... tune out.

[–] Starglasses@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Alcoholism is a coping mechanism 🤷☹

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml -4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Religion is a coping mechanism too, but that doesn't stop religious people from fighting for their freedom. 🇵🇸

[–] Starglasses@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I didn't make a clear point. I meant that alcoholism is a coping mechanism and it is a net negative. Is mocking situations and derailing the seriousness of those situations similar?

I'm asking in a curious mood. I have no agenda here.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml -5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

My point was coping mechanisms keep us alive so we can keep fighting. Without them we either tune out of current events or committ suicide. Religion is the opiate of the masses but I'm too irreligious for that, so instead I snark to keep myself alive.

Alcoholism is literally deadly so it's a bad comparison.

[–] Starglasses@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Isn't joking about corruption and laughing about how the world is fucked just as deadly?

I'm not trying to make some grand declaration. I'm just wondering what people think about joking about our messed up world is doing in diminishing actually doing anything.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml -5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Look, I either joke about this shit or I cast a 9mm ballot into my fucking head and cast the only god damn vote that matters.

And no, that's not a joke. A public political suicide would do this country a lot of good.

[–] Starglasses@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not angry at you. I am right with you laughing about the ridiculous way things happen.

My question is if this attitude is hindering to the actual conversation needed to be had.

Having to repeat that I want to be talking about the problem multiple times and being met with defensive posts not addressing the issue at hand, but defending the ego of saying what was said... that has me thinking that yes, distraction of complaining is effective at hiding the problems.

You are defending your complaints and not speaking of solutions.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml -4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It seems more like you question is if I am the problem. That's what it sounds like. It sounds like you're saying it's my fault for mocking this situation, that it's my fault that the conversation is stifled, that it's my fault problems are being hidden.

As for solutions, we need a unified working class movement lead by a vanguard party to overthrow the dictatorship of the bourgeoisie and establish democratic socialism. Am I hindering this by mocking this demon shithole country for murdering us? Am I to blame for why there isn't a worker's party that can lead a revolution? Am I to blame for our problems not being solved or conversations being had?

I'm getting defensive? You keep telling me over and over that I am the problem, how the god damn fuck am I supposed to respond?

[–] Starglasses@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago

I very specifically said you were not a target, just a launching point to talk about the topic. Have a good day.

[–] jasory@programming.dev -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You joke, because you have nothing to contribute. You're not demoralised, this has no effect on you.

"They murder us... nothing but meat" And you are offering alternatives how? Stop pretending to be outraged when you care so little that you can't even be bothered to investigate the causes of issues and proffer solutions.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The alternative is to abolish the profit motive, end the accumulation of wealth, seize the means of production, and put the ruling class in work camps.

I joke so I don't kill myself. Honestly? Fuck you. I'm so fucking tired and angry all the fucking time, so either I joke or I cast a 9mm ballot into my fucking head for the next election cycle. At least that way my vote might fucking mean something.

[–] jasory@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

How do you abolish the profit motive? It's literally just the motivation to benefit from a transaction.

"Put the ruling class in work camps"

So create another ruling class to imprison these people? Do the new ruling class have to be subject to imprisonment as well? What about the dictatorship of the proletariat, that is now oppressing the previously wealthy? Shouldn't they also be subject to imprisonment for abuses?

"At least that way my vote might mean something"

And it will mean more depending on how much you contribute to society.

"I'm so tired and angry all the time"

So am I. I'm so tired and angry, I have no recourse but to criticise you. Oh, that's not a legitimate reason, you say? My mood doesn't justify my behaviour you say?

[–] socsa@lemmy.ml -3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

A lot of people on lemmy are just bad at first principles of economics and politics. They don't quite get (as Marx didn't) that the structures of capitalism arise from scarcity and complexity, and that it doesn't matter what you actually call the mediation of scarcity via a monetary proxy - the end results will be largely the same. Which is why the focus needs to be on understanding these complex systems comprehensively and regulating them. Not useless bumper sticker platitudes quietly celebrating even more violence.

Edit - yeah, exactly, there's no bigger threat to outdated ML orthodoxy than a freshman economics textbook

[–] FlaminGoku@reddthat.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I completely agree with this take and also think that similarly, we should refrain from typing/saying things ironically, because eventually, they are communicated unironically.

[–] Starglasses@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago

I remember as a child "if you keep your face that way, it will stick"

It's something to be aware of :)

[–] athos77@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh - and I also forgot to mention that, even in the current 'slow' period, the US is still averaging over 100 covid deaths per day. And that also means that we're averaging an additional 1500 people with long covid every day.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago

And no one cares about getting a vaccine because "COVID is over" 🙃