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[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You don't require any other use besides the desire for self defense. That's the position of the Supreme Court.

[–] RichCaffeineFlavor@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The supreme court says whatever the fuck they want. It's not some sacred institution that should be respected.

[–] RaoulDook@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

You can go tell them that, and see how far it gets you.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The Supreme Court is the arbiter of what the constitution means and they set the landscape of the current law of the land.

Their opinions can change (abortion), but it takes generations to make that change.

[–] RichCaffeineFlavor@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No it doesn't. It just takes putting your political toadies in the seats. They just say whatever the fuck they want to say. It's not an institution that means anything. Not any further than 'they get to say whatever the fuck they want' that is. Have you read their decisions? They're barely even trying to pretend anymore. Why are you?

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's the 3rd equal part of government as defined by the US Constitution, so yes, it IS an institution just as much as the Legislative and Executive branches.

You can't ignore a constitutionally mandated part of our government just because you don't agree with them.

Now, it CAN change. We saw it change on abortion rights, all it takes is a concerted effort to appoint judges who feel the way you do over a 50 year period of time.

[–] RichCaffeineFlavor@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't think you're being very present in our conversation. You're not following very well.

When did I say it wasn't an institution? When did I say it wasn't a branch of government?

all it takes is a concerted effort to appoint judges who feel the way you do over a 50 year period of time.

Oh there are much easier and faster ways to deal with them. Like for instance just ignoring them.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

When did I say it wasn't an institution?

2 Comments above:

"It's not some sacred institution that should be respected."

1Comment above:
"It's not an institution that means anything."

When did I say it wasn't a branch of government?

That's implied when you say "just ignore them."

You do NOT have the option of ignoring a branch of government defined by the Constitution.

Anymore than you can choose to ignore the Executive or Legislative branches.

[–] RichCaffeineFlavor@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

sacred, should be respected

that means anything

That’s implied when you say “just ignore them.”

No it isn't

You do NOT have the option of ignoring a branch of government defined by the Constitution.

Yes you do. It's been done before.

Anymore than you can choose to ignore the Executive or Legislative branches.

Yes fuck those branches as well but this is off topic

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wow, so you essentially have absolutely no idea how our system of government works.

Good luck with "just ignore it" if you ever end up in court, I guarantee that will not go well for you.

[–] RichCaffeineFlavor@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You should crack a history book before you start spouting off about how other people don't know things. When someone tells you something has been done in the past, it's kinda dumb to just spout off "that's not how that works!" with such a smug, sophomoric attitude.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Cite your sources then if you're so confident. Show me when someone has told the Supreme Court to piss off and gotten away with it.

You don't get to just say "yeah they have" and just drop it.

They are the SUPREME court. There is no higher authority in US law.

See:

https://www.democracydocket.com/news-alerts/after-unprecedented-defiance-alabama-has-a-fair-congressional-map-for-2024/

Which is on track to repeat itself here:

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/louisiana-legislators-jan-15-enact-new-congressional-map-court-says-rcna124726

Telling the Supreme Court "No, I don't think I will" is not an option.