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[–] barrbaric@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wait, how much environmental damage does road salt cause?

[–] take_five_seconds@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

epa.gov link

turns out just throwing a fuck ton of salt into the environment has negative effects

[–] HiddenLayer5@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

It also destroys the very infrastructure that it's trying to clear snow from. We eventually need to recognize that rubber wheels on asphalt simply isn't a very efficient or durable method of moving large amounts of stuff long distances. Steel on steel is superior in both efficiency and longevity.

[–] UnfortunateDoorHinge@aussie.zone 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

slaps some locomotive wheels on my Accord.

[–] HiddenLayer5@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Road-rail vehicles are totally a thing! Mostly for doing inspection and maintenance on rail corridors.

[–] drathvedro@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

The reverse is also a thing, btw. Though it still uses special rail. But some Russian evil geniuses have made a road drive-able train before, and nobody even knows what for.

[–] Outdoor_Catgirl@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, but private trains is not a scalable thing. Putting these on everything solves no problems

[–] HiddenLayer5@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Which is why the real solution is PUBLIC transit, not private motor vehicle ownership of any kind beyond small electric personal mobility like an e-bike or scooter.

[–] Outdoor_Catgirl@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago

Of course. An actual train is better than some hybrid boondoggle like a bus train hybrid

[–] jakob@soc.schuerz.at 2 points 1 year ago

@HiddenLayer5 @UnfortunateDoorHinge

On This thing you can drive up with a car and run it on Rails...

[–] 7bicycles@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We eventually need to recognize that rubber wheels on asphalt simply isn't a very efficient or durable method of moving large amounts of stuff long distances.

I disagree here, there's in here for cars that's hard to do otherwise. I think the problem is more that that is also not at all what cars are primarily used for. Like even in the US 60% of trips are under 6 miles and average occupancy rate is 1,5 persons. That's a bike ride.

one hummer ev or several thousand e bikes thonk