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[–] comador@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Some examples of ultra-processed foods are:

Chicken nuggets; Fast foods, including Pizza; Frozen meals; Deli rotisserie chicken; Mashed potatoe flakes; Hot dogs; Lunchables; Packaged soups; Packaged cookies; Jarred sauces; Potato chips; Crackers like Pringles and Cheez-Its; Soft drinks and Energy Drinks; Sweetened breakfast cereals and Flavored granola bars

[–] V17@kbin.social 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

including Pizza; Frozen meals

I have to wonder why that is or if it applies to everything in this category, because some frozen food is literally just normal food, only frozen. I recently bought and ate two cheap frozen pizzas and took a look through their ingredients to see what kind of crap I'm ingesting. One of the pizzas contained the same ingredients that a homemade pizza of a similar type would have, with only one exception, which was a tiny bit of citric acid. Harmless. The other contained added modified starch in the tomato sauce, and surprisingly a bit of dextrose in the dough and on the pieces of chicken meat. That is not great, but since it was listed in the last place and ingredients have to be sorted by the amount present in a descending order, I know that there was less dextrose than salt in the dough, which means the amount was quite small. Still, no preservatives, colorants or flavor enhancers.

There is one difference - making a homemade pizza takes me about an hour because there's a lot of prep involved, whereas this is done in 15 minutes, so I eat it more often. But I have no need to restrict caloric intake, so that's not an issue for me either unless there is some other way in which this is unhealthy.

[–] comador@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Highly processed on its own doesn't mean much without taking into account processing method and ingredients used to process them.

These processing methods used may include extrusion, moulding, chemical modifications and hydrogenation (turning liquid unsaturated fats into a more solid form).

In the case of frozen pizzas, the ingredients do not say much, but they are in fact considered a group 3 ultra processed food because of how they were made and the fact that manufacturers don’t need to state the processes foods undergo on the label... just that they are bread, cheese and sauce.

[–] Eatspancakes84@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

At the same time, we still have quite limited knowledge on what exactly makes ultraprocessed food so harmful. Is it the additives (and which additives exactly), the process (and which process exactly)? Ultraprocessed food is currently treated with a broad stroke, whereas the harm may well come from a very small fraction of additives and/or processes. All of this is very difficult to disentangle because our previous science indicated that the processes/additives now in use were safe.

[–] PeleSpirit@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Pretty much anything that isn't in the meat, produce and milk areas. If it's premade from a big corp, it's bad for you.

Edit: Also, this...

A small but landmark randomized controlled study in 2019, led by the National Institutes of Health's nutrition expert, Kevin Hall, found that when inpatient trial participants received diets with ultra-processed foods, they ate roughly 500 extra calories a day compared to a control group of inpatient participants who were served a diet that was matched in macronutrients but did not include ultra-processed foods.

[–] Eatspancakes84@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Also, almost all sausages and other processed meats are considered ultraprocessed. Let’s not even consider vegan “meats”. For proteins you can essentially only eat chicken and eggs (though these obviously contain harmful antibiotics), and steak ( but red meat cause cancer).

This is why it’s so important to do more research to find out which processes and additives are harmful and which are not, so we can better distinguish between harmful and safe food.

[–] PeleSpirit@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I can't touch vegan hamburgers unless I take a benedryl with it. I'm 100% in with your suggestion we do a lot of research for ourselves. If I eat poorly, it's not just the allergies, I get down in the dumps. I always wonder if the food quality is making some people (not all, of course, but some) have a low quality of mental energy and mild depression.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Deli rotisserie chicken

Ah shit, turns out I actually needed the warning. You'd think it'd be hard for something to be ultra-processed without even being cut up, but apparently not!

Edit: wait a second, does it mean Costco-loss-leader-style whole chickens, sliced glued-and-formed spherical chicken breast lunch meat, or both?

[–] Eatspancakes84@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Most likely it fits the definition because it contains MSG or some other additive ( though it’s clearly processed very similar to homemade chicken).