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Cruise recalls all self-driving cars after grisly accident and California ban | All 950 of the General Motors subsidiary’s autonomous cars will be taken off roads for a software update::All 950 of the General Motors subsidiary’s autonomous cars will be taken off roads for a software update

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[-] trash80@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 11 months ago

How did you arrive at that conclusion?

In a statement on Wednesday, the GM unit said that it did the recall even though it determined that a similar crash with a risk of serious injury could happen again every 10m to 100m miles without the update.

[-] baggins@lemmy.ca -1 points 11 months ago

Emphasis goes on "even though".

As in "At GM we're so benevolent that we're doing a software update even though we think this will only kill someone every 10m miles (which we consider an acceptable murder rate for our cars)".

[-] trash80@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 11 months ago

How frequently this type of incident occurs is outside the control of GM.

In the crash, another vehicle with a person behind the wheel struck a pedestrian, sending the person into the path of a Cruise autonomous vehicle. The Cruise initially stopped but still hit the person.

[-] baggins@lemmy.ca 2 points 11 months ago

You missed the part where this was specifically about their car dragging the person for 20ft after the crash and pinning them under the wheel?

[-] trash80@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 11 months ago

I didn't address it because you didn't say anything about it.

[-] marietta_man@yall.theatl.social 3 points 11 months ago

No one was killed in the accident they are stating the rate of.

[-] great_site_not@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Yeah, but a car running over a woman, dragging her twenty feet and parking on top of her, could easily have killed her.

[-] echodot@feddit.uk 2 points 11 months ago

Yeah but equally you could argue that if all cars were self-driving this accident wouldn't have happened. It involved a human making a mistake first.

I kind of feel like we're getting the wrong takeaway from self driving cars.

[-] great_site_not@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago

What kind of mistake can a pedestrian make to cause a self-driving car run over them, and how does making more cars self-driving prevent that mistake?

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