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[–] dingleberry@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Wait, how are CARS intercepting mobile activities?

[–] bitwolf@lemmy.one 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

When you connect to Bluetooth, it asks your phone to share call, contact and SMS information.

Think like the old horrible headunit text implementation, the ability to scan your contact list from the car, and see your recent calls.

[–] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

When you comment to Bluetooth, it asks your phone to share call, contact and SMS information.

So they are intercepting your calls and messages with your permission? I don't see the problem. If you don't want them to do that, click "deny" when your phone asks if you want to share them with the car.

[–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 1 year ago

I think it’s more of an issue with what the car does with that data. Is it communicated to you in some way, or sent to headquarters to be added to your file for future sale?

If it’s the former, no harm no foul. If it’s the latter, it needs to be burnt with fire.

[–] SARGEx117@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

"I don't understand, if you don't want crushed orphans, just don't toss them in the orphan crushing machine"

Well maybe they shouldn't have an orphan crushing machine in the first place.

[–] Maeve@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

Mozilla tested a bunch. Try a search on the platform and see.

[–] DreadPotato@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Through android auto and apple car play would be my guess, but i don't know.

[–] kinttach@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (4 children)

There’s no way Apple lets the automaker access app data from your phone. Apps on the phone can’t even see data from other apps on the phone.

There are two ways I can think of for the infotainment to get the messages. The first is by OCR-ing the CarPlay screen, which is shady as hell. The second is a feature like this one where the car has Bluetooth notification integration.

[–] phoneymouse@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Regarding OCR theory, the screen never shows messages. It only will read them aloud because you’re driving and shouldn’t be reading your texts.

[–] Exusia@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Apple doesn't allow it. Users do , when they agree to share whatever let's the funny nightmare rectangle play trendy and pleasant sounds from car sound nozzles. While also an automated voice reads texts aloud in the name of hands-free, for all occupants (and some outside if the volume is up). And also it needs to contact info, to make calls for all the silly-fillies that want to use siri while driving. And shoot to reply to meemaw with a family photo siri needs to access your images.

Meanwhile your new infotainment system is sending all this off like a $45,000 copier that it is, sending it off in packets when it gets wifi signals, because the kids needed in-car wifi for their Xbox on road trips.

[–] phx@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

One of the things it asks permission for when hooking up Bluetooth etc is "call history", "contacts" or "text messages"

I'd assume the system needs those to read it messages or call/redial. It wouldn't need OCR to do other things with that data

[–] spark947@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago

Apple probably just lets it happen.