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[–] agent_flounder@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Easy. When scientists come up with a verifiable theory that explains observed gravitational effects in the universe that can't be explained by general relativity, given visible matter.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_matter

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee -5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I mean at this point, dark matter just seems like reaching at this point. Might as well be a neurologist searching for the human soul.

[–] agent_flounder@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

While we haven't detected dark matter in a lab, it isn't on the same level as a metaphysical soul.

I'm not aware of any physical phenomena for which a soul is the best theory currently available.

Whereas dark matter is the best theory so far to explain observed gravitational effects^1 that cannot be explained by general relativity and detectable matter alone. Yes, it may be due to something else (other theories exist and maybe someone will come up with another better one).


1 includes: "formation and evolution of galaxies,[1] gravitational lensing,[2] observable universe's current structure, mass position in galactic collisions,[3] motion of galaxies within galaxy clusters, and cosmic microwave background anisotropies." - wikipedia

[–] Gabu@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That'd be a valid comparison, if there were any evidence of a soul existing. The effects of matter, on the other hand, are clearly visible - or invisible, in the case of dark matter.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago

Yes but at the same time we used to have all the evidence in the world indicate that planet Vulcan was just behind the sun, and then it turned out that no it wasn't. If Dark Matter can't be found no matter what experiment we do. Then maybe we are mistaken about its existence

[–] FastAndBulbous@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Just because something seemingly doesn't interact with EM fields doesn't mean it isn't there, it's just something that only really interacts with the rest of the universe on a gravitational level.