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[–] argo_yamato@lemm.ee 126 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Still wish folks would stop saying MAGA Republicans. They can just say Republicans it means the same thing.

[–] aseriesoftubes@lemmy.world 149 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Polling shows that “MAGA” has a far more negative perception in the mind of the average person than “Republican.” Explicitly tying the two together is a solid political strategy.

[–] mpa92643@lemmy.world 87 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That and the fact that there's a not insignificant number of people who are center-right politically and identify as Republican but don't like Trump or the recent direction of the party. It's not a majority or even a plurality of Republicans, but it's enough to have an impact in close races.

Biden attacking "MAGA Republicans" instead of "Republicans" gives the center-right voters a permission structure to support Democrats because the choice gets reframed from "us (Democrats) vs. you (Republicans)" to "us (the sane ones) vs. them (the crazies)".

[–] macaro@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 year ago

This is why we need a proportional representation political system. Then MAGA party is it’s own thing, where they have tantrums in the corner and we ignore them.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Right up there with republicans constantly tying democrats discussing social policy to communism. Can’t even have a discussion about social policy without some right wing nut going off the rails about socialism and communism.

[–] bus_go_fast@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Or bigotry. I notice when they are "okay with me being gay", there's always the "but"..

Always the but... 😏

[–] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 71 points 1 year ago (3 children)

To paraphrase Sun Tzu, always leave an enemy an exit. A trapped enemy will fight harder if they can't flee.

[–] Toribor@corndog.social 14 points 1 year ago

Yes. People need a permission structure to change their vote, particularly people who really see their party as part of their identity.

[–] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

But make sure you light horse cavalry is waiting in the wings to overrun your fleeing enemy and mow them all down.

Just the way Sun Tzu always wanted. 😌

[–] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They can just say Republicans it means the same thing.

It really doesn't. For example there's a bunch of Republican voters in Ohio who just enshrined Abortion access into their State Constitution but that action is inconsistent with the idea of MAGA.

MAGA Republican's aren't keeping people like Brian Fitzpatrick (Pennsylvania) in office, that's being done by "Republicans" or "Moderate Republicans".

So no, they ain't all "MAGA" and we are clearing seeing Republican voters push back on MAGA in many places.

[–] WindyRebel@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

If we keep using a distinction, there will be infighting and turmoil. It helps to split their party when it comes to election time.

[–] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Nope. I think he’s right to keep saying MAGA. It drives home that they didn’t, couldn’t, wouldn’t, don’t, won’t and can’t make America the piece of shit they want it to be.