My point isn’t that there isn’t such thing as a tankie, or a dictatorship. Pinochet, Pol Pot, Hitler, and by some stretches, Stalin, are all dictators.

'You could call Stalin a dictator,' allows someone previously going to the paint to declare there's no possible way Stalin was a dictator.

Someone now pretending that when I condemn tankies, I must be describing all leftists, and all leftists don't believe what I'm condemning, therefore nuh-uh. Even though that's completely fucking stupid and the opposite of how labels work. Like there's no possible way I am specifically talking about a minority of crazy people, the same way there's no possible way I am specifically talking about the abuses of a by-some-stretch-dictator, even though you freely fucking acknowledge both problems do exist.

and you extend it to anyone on the left

An accusation based on literally nothing. The opposite of everything I've argued here. A fantasy of your own invention.

[–] Graylitic@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I wasn't defending Stalin, I was pointing out flaws in your logic, which you continue to double down on. It's like you're in a shit pit, making your own shit castle, flinging it everywhere. Nothing you've actually said has mattered at all.

The people you've described don't fit your definition. You've given a specific definition, then when asked to clarify, you showed people that don't fit that same definition.

Read Marx, I guess.

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I wasn’t defending Stalin

Cool, who asked? I'm accusing you of saying Stalin wasn't a dictator, because that was kinda your central objection, several comments in a row, until I guess you forgot.

I am calling you a blithe hypocrite and you don't even understand which claim you just fumbled. This whole conversation started with me saying tankies just like leftist-colored dictatorships and you saying 'that wasn't a dictatorship.' Now you want to casually slip that yeah okay you guess it might be, "by some stretches," and pretend it's my fault for not dragging it out of you sooner?

You've looked straight at comments saying 'I wish Stalin gulag'd more people' and 'the uigher genocide is a de-radicalization program' and go, nope, that can't possibly be defending the evils of allegedly communist countries. That's still not a me problem. You can mumble about critical support, but there's ever any context where genocide is an acceptable... political strategy.

These people are out there.

That crazy bullshit is really what they think.

Loyalist hierarchy is the best model explaining their crazy bullshit.

[–] Graylitic@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My central objection was to you operating purely on vibes, which you continue to do.

Your second paragraph is more you missing the point, as you always do, so it doesn't really matter.

Do you really think people saying they wish Stalin gulag'd more people are serious? The second claim is half correct, there is absolutely mass imprisonment and mass erasure of culture, it depends on how you define genocide. Is it absolutely evil? Yes. Genocide? Iffy.

You look at everything completely black and white and give them ammo, because then they can turn around and say that China isn't genociding Uighers, when you should just be saying that the de-radicalization program is evil regardless.

All in all, read Marx.

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

'Nobody says that.' Proof given. 'Oh they're joking.'

Fuck off.

[–] Graylitic@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Okay, guess the tankie can't take a joke.

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I wish you meant things when you say words.