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Blahaj's admin has refederated with Hexbear, using most Blahaj users unhappy and baffled. No communication from the admins regarding the change, though one user speculated it was a halloween trick. Multiple pings to the admin Ada have gone unanswered, even though Ada is clearly still active on Lemmy.

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[–] anton@lemmy.blahaj.zone 52 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Finally, a message from Ada:

Hey, sorry about the way this unfolded.

I removed hexbear from the blocklist, as they are defederated from us, and I was unaware that it would mean that hexbear users and blahaj users would be able to interact on 3rd party instances. I'll add them back for now.

Ultimately, the reason I removed them from the list now is that once we have the ability to let users block instances on a per user level, I am open to the idea of refederating with hexbear, because I am aware that many of their trans and gender diverse users want the ability to connect with our trans communities, and trans solidarity is something that I hold to be very important. Enough that I am willing to give this all another go.

However, it was only meant to happen after blahaj users had the option to opt out of interacting with hexbear users, and after I had made an announcement letting people know it was coming. I apologise for the screw up leading to a mini refederation before I gave people a heads up and before the tools were in place to let people choose whether they engage with hexbear users.

[–] PugJesus@kbin.social 35 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It doesn't look intentional, then. It's still insane to me how many 'chances' are offered to the bad faith trolls in Hexbear.

[–] quindraco@lemm.ee 29 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Also a mystery to me how anyone, Ada included, could possibly conclude Hexbear had anything of value to offer anyone. Any trans people on Hexbear rather than somewhere else are sure to be joining in Hexbear shit like genocide denial.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I guess they consider trans solidarity important enough to look past that.

Man, if Lemmy was as popular as Reddit I can't even imagine the drama we'd have. Even now it is wild sometimes.

[–] PM_ME_FAT_ENBIES@lib.lgbt -2 points 1 year ago

You mean transphobic solidarity. Both instances are transphobic.

[–] Blamemeta@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago

There were jews who supported the nazis. Some people are weird, in a bad way.

[–] PM_ME_FAT_ENBIES@lib.lgbt -2 points 1 year ago

Oh, that's easy. Ada and Hexbear are both transphobic. She's a liberal who protects the right of her users to "opt out of politics", which is not only semantic nonsense, but dangerous rhetoric.

[–] Cosmicomical@kbin.social 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Sounds like the better solution would be that users on hexbear should join blahaj directly and comply with their rules if they want to talk with other people

[–] YeetPics@mander.xyz 6 points 1 year ago

comply with their rules

Lol

[–] amio@kbin.social 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Whatever inclusiveness they have over there - I'm sure it's terrific, just seems like a piss poor reason to accept all the bad faith participation.

[–] canis_majoris@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah, any time you try to engage with Hexbear in good faith it always goes sideways because they do not operate in good faith.

I don't really care about inclusivity when the people being included are derogatory and an overall detriment to the environment. That's not inclusion, that's just letting the assholes seep in and win.

Like the other poster said, they should just sign up for Blahaj and play by their rules. That's the only way to ensure the communities stay healthy.