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If your attitude is that explaining that change is necessary is "belittling," you're a perfect example of the "big barrier" the article is talking about. In particular...
...what have you, personally, been doing to change that? I, for one, am active in my local community organizations trying to get bike infrastructure built, parking minimums reduced, and single-family zones changed to allow higher density.
We don't have the luxury of sitting around being offended when called out on our inaction anymore.
Sorry, I just don't agree that the private jets should stay. I'm glad you're part of that 10% you've been bragging about so hard, and feel free to do what you can as I will. But I'm not, and I need to make enough money to pay rent and eat.
I didn't say they should! What I said is that we've got way more important things to worry about, and getting hung up on minutiae like that could be counterproductive.
You think that's bragging?! You've missed the point so hard I'm not even sure how to respond to that.
My income isn't high and never has been (my household has rarely even hit the US median). My wealth is only relatively high for my age because I'm extremely frugal. And that's also not a brag -- that's just me giving the context to explain that when I say even I'm part of the problem, I mean damn near EVERY-FUCKING-BODY in America is part of the problem! I don't care how poor you think you are; on a global scale you're dead wrong.
The focus should be on industry, fabrication, production, and energy generation. That's the largest impact you can have.
Regulating people's lives, especially people who already feel pressed upon given their contextual poverty/inequality is not how anything is going to happen. In fact, you'll probably be exactly where we are now: mostly no one giving a shit or doing anything about it.
The focus should be on ending the suburban American car-centric lifestyle. That's what's fucking up the planet, whether you want to admit it or not.
You focus on carbon and energy reduction of the sectors I mentioned in my previous comment. You don't stop this by telling Jane from Oswego to stop buying plastic novelty straws. You stop this by disincentivizing the production of plastic novelty straws as a whole. This is an issue of overproduction as much as it's an issue of overconsumption.
Individual people are not the vector that will subvert this crisis, unfortunately.
WTF do plastic straws have to do with anything? I'm talking about doing things like changing the zoning code.
Plastic straws are a stand in for commodity goods.