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[–] Davel23@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago (5 children)

every game on their [sic] I can find on Steam

Oh yeah? Find these:

3 out of 10

A Knight's Quest

Alan Wake Remastered

Alan Wake 2

Assassin's Creed Mirage

Battle Breakers

Binary Smoke

Castle Storm 2

Core

Corruption 2029

Crime Boss: Rockay City

Dangerous Driving

Dauntless

Dead Island 2

Diabotical

Ghostbusters: Spirits Unleashed

Goat Simulator 3

Grit

Infinitesimals

John Carpenter's Toxic Commando

Kid A Mnesia Exhibition

Kingdom Hearts series

The Lord of the Rings: Return to Moria

Ooblets

PC Building Simulator 2

ReadySet Heroes

Rocket League

RollerCoaster Tycoon Adventures

Salt and Sacrifice

Saturnalia

The Settlers: New Allies

Shoulders of Giants

Sins of a Solar Empire II

Space Punks

Star Trek: Resurgence

Tchia

The Crew Motorfest

The Expanse: A Telltale Series

Tortuga - A Pirate’s Tale

Touch Type Tale

Witchfire

The Wolf Among Us 2

[–] Ottomateeverything@lemmy.world 54 points 1 year ago

I don't know about any of the others, but at least Rocket League and Fall Guys are great examples here.

Both games already existed and were extremely successful on Steam.

Both games got bought by Epic and we were told they were going to get continued support.

Both games were then REMOVED from Steam.

Both games then started suddenly having objectively worse monetization. Both communities grew a pretty negative opinion of the changes.

Both games are objectively less popular now, though at least some of this is just age/fads.

But both games are just objectively in a worse spot than they were before. All Epic did was make them objectively worse.

[–] mayTay@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This list is just another argument against epic... artificial exclusives. For a FUCKING LAUNCHER. Even fucking Playstation, EA and Ubisoft opened up.

Fuck Epic.

[–] WldFyre@lemm.ee -4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fucking Playstation is not better than Epic with handling exclusives lmfao come on now

[–] mayTay@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They are literally releasing their games on another platform that actually requires them to put money into the project again to develop a port. So yeah, even PS atm is better than Epic.

[–] WldFyre@lemm.ee -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So Playstation releasing some of their games literally years later as often sub-par ports is better than being able to play a game day 1 native on PC? I'd love to hear to the logic for that lol

[–] mayTay@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's better than keeping them artificially locked behind a launcher for no reason whatsoever, yes.

[–] WldFyre@lemm.ee -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] mayTay@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So just let me get that straight.

You also don't like exclusives and want ppl to be able to play the way they want.

...and somehow Playstation - actively releasing their games on PC, investing time, money & effort - are worse than Epic who just want to lure ppl to their store/launcher and actively taking away the choice of playing method?

Alrighty then...

[–] WldFyre@lemm.ee -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Epic also releases their games on PC lol

And they release them day 1, without the multiple year wait from console release, and not as shitty ports. Fuck yes that's better than PlayStation, it's a no-brainer.

I'm truly baffled that anyone could have this take seriously. PC =/= Steam.

[–] mayTay@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Wow... Seriously? No they release it for their launcher exclusively not for pc.

If you're talking platforms Sony is WAY MORE OPEN than Epic ever will be, we can just pray they fail hard and this practice doesn't become the norm (again)

[–] WldFyre@lemm.ee -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No they release it for their launcher exclusively not for pc

So anything that only releases on Steam is also an exclusive and "not for pc"?

If you’re talking platforms Sony is WAY MORE OPEN than Epic ever will be

Because Epic Games Launcher is only PC? Then Sony is also better than any company that releases only on Steam for PC?

[–] mayTay@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yes. If it's paid to ONLY be on Steam.

If we follow your "logic" yes.

[–] WldFyre@lemm.ee -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] mayTay@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Okay I'll give up after that one.

Sony & Xbox once used to have exclusives for their platforms. Xbox opened up completely and releases everything to PC as well. Sony opened up later and now brings their games to PC as well. Sometimes a year later, sometimes a month. So they're multi Plattform now and you can choose where and how to play it.

EA and Ubisoft decided to open up their LAUNCHERS and give you the choice where to buy& play - it's not completely open, because often you'll still need their browsers but it's a step in the right direction.

So the trend seems to be to open up more to reach more people and sell more games that way.

EPIC on the other hand is completely closed, buying exclusives for their launcher or for a certain time. It's a shitty approach to force people to their store and they still aren't profitable - that's the only good thing about epic proofing that this approach doesn't work anymore.

Are Sony/Xbox/EA/Ubisoft perfect? No. - but they all get that being more open is the way to go. They don't do it because they're nice or want us to be happy with games - They do it because it's profitable, but coincidentally that's a good trend that's worthy of support.

[–] panchzila@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

They bought fall guys and removed the possibility of buying it on steam. And timed exclusives like borderlands 3.

[–] OrgunDonor@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Battle Breakers

This is a bad example to put down, can't find that on the epic store either.

https://www.epicgames.com/site/en-US/news/epic-is-turning-off-online-services-and-servers-for-some-older-games