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[-] wildginger@lemmy.myserv.one 0 points 11 months ago

Why would anyone give a shit what tories value or dont value? They dont trade in facts.

[-] HornyOnMain@lemmy.ml 3 points 11 months ago

the british conservative party, famous fans of the Communist Party of China, who are well known for pushing pro-china news stories

[-] wildginger@lemmy.myserv.one 0 points 11 months ago

It doesnt matter if theyre pro or anti anything. They just dont deal in fact.

They dont stop pushing a narrative because it turned out to be false, they stop if they think it wont bring immediate monetary gains.

What the tories talk about is a measure of what the current grift is for quick cash, not what stories are factual or inaccurate.

[-] Diva@lemmy.ml 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

The fact that the Tories are reporting on it doesn't make it a measure of if it's true or not- they're reporting on something from wikileaks which directly contradicts the entire western narrative. They're certainly not doing it because it's ideologically consistent with their goals.

Media and news reporting is going to be heavily filtered by what advertisers will tolerate- which isn't necessarily going to be factual or accurate either.

[-] wildginger@lemmy.myserv.one -4 points 11 months ago

None of that matters if its from the mouth of a tory, dude

If a tory is speaking, it is to trick you into giving them money. You cannot say "this has to be true/false, because the tories said ..."

If a tory said it, it was a ploy for cash. Nothing to do with anyone elses ideologies or goals, or reality.

[-] Diva@lemmy.ml 1 points 11 months ago

You lot are so unhinged- check out this diplomatic cable describing the tens of thousands of dead. Oh wait it was yet another lie from perfidious Albion.

[-] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml -1 points 11 months ago

Generally when people admit things that are politically inconvenient to them it is worth listening. If Trump admitted he did tax evasion would you be like "nuh-uh he is lying! He's a liar he didn't do tax evasion!"

[-] wildginger@lemmy.myserv.one -1 points 11 months ago

If trump admitted to anything, I would look for how he was trying to spin it in his benefit. Because he, like a tory, does not act unless he thinks its going to benefit him.

Trump does not speak based on fact. Just grift. His admission of anything is not statements based in facts, just grift.

If they happen to align with truth? Glory be. But his statements appearing inconvenient is not a measurement of truth. Just like the tories.

[-] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 0 points 11 months ago

Okay, how do you thing the Tories who strongly oppose china benefit from this admission? What is your theory?

[-] wildginger@lemmy.myserv.one -2 points 11 months ago

I dont know what their current grift is. I just know how they act, and have acted, since their inception.

They arent proof that any statement is true. Citing them is like citing a creationist flat earther on your geology paper.

[-] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 1 points 11 months ago

If a creationist was like "I'm lying. The earth is actually x billion years old" I'd cite them as "even the creationists don't believe their own rhetoric"

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