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[-] Starshader@lemmy.ml 3 points 11 months ago

So it was for calling the CCP president Winnie then ?

[-] WhyEssEff@hexbear.net 41 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

if i had to guess, probably. it's somewhat of a plausibly-deniable dogwhistle for 'asian = yellow'. not saying you meant that, just that I don't blame the mods for their hypervigilance here

[-] Starshader@lemmy.ml 13 points 11 months ago

Oh wow. I honestly didn't thought about that. I may be an ass sometime but... not like that :o !

[-] WhyEssEff@hexbear.net 27 points 11 months ago

no worries, thanks for being receptive yea

[-] Zagorath@aussie.zone 12 points 11 months ago

You hadn't thought of it because it's completely made up. Xi started getting compared to Winnie the Pooh by Chinese citizens after a picture came out showing Xi and former US President Obama together in a similar pose to Pooh and Tigger. Used originally for rather light-hearted ribbing of Xi, the Chinese government decided to crack down on it hard, which has had a massive Streisand Effect with the comparison between Xi and Pooh becoming popular in the West because Xi has shown how sensitive he is to it.

There's no racial component to it at all. It's all about being critical of the absurd censorship of the current PRC's government.

[-] Garfield@lemm.ee 38 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

i wonder why western redditors found a depiction of an asian president as a fat yellow bear and a black president as a character called Tigger so funny 🤔 definitely no racism here, no sir

[-] Brak@hexbear.net 31 points 11 months ago

defending that racism is so transparently in bad faith holy shit

[-] raven@hexbear.net 37 points 11 months ago

There's no racial component to it at all

That's a pretty bold statement to make. Have you seen the west?

[-] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 34 points 11 months ago

Wow, look at this racism denial from the same person who was criticizing Tankies for genocide denial.

"The meme was started by a Chinese person, therefore it can't be racist" is just a new veneer on "black rappers use the n-word in music, therefore it's not racist if I use it."

[-] nublug@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 11 months ago

except winnie the pooh isn't already a slur, and it kinda does matter the history of the usage of a term if you're trying to determine the intent and usage of it.

literally nobody used the winnie the pooh insult against him because of his race, it was always because he literally looks like the character, and then threw a fit and banned all mention or image of a worldwide-known and beloved fictional character. because he's an unstable tyrant.

[-] Bassword@hexbear.net 18 points 11 months ago

the Chinese government decided to crack down on it hard

Deleting some memes from Weibo isn't a "hard" crackdown, westerners just want to pretend it is and for some reason still care ten years later.

[-] autismdragon@hexbear.net 18 points 11 months ago

Have you considered that the meme might have different impact coming from a Chinese person ribbing their leader than a white westerner echoing it? The former might be "light ribbing" but the later is racist. Who says a thing matters significantly on whether its ok to say. You know this very well because I'd hope you'd know that its not ok for white people to use the soft r n word even though many black people use it.

[-] boredtortoise@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago

Yeah, the comments of yours in the modlog are rude but the mod is definitely reaching and banning you for dissent

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