Everywhere I look there are people advocating for defederation from this and that! Do you even understand what you're suggesting? Do you get what's the point of decentralized social media and activity pub?

This is supposed to be free and accessible for everyone. We all have brains and can decide who to interact with.

If meta or any other company manages to create a better product it's just natural that people tend to use it. I won't use it, you may not use it and it's totally fine! It's about having options. Also as Mastodon's CEO pointed out there's no privacy concern, everything stays on your instance.

Edit: after reading and responding to many comments, I should point out that I'm not against defederation in general. It's a great feature if used properly. Problem is General Instances with open sign-ups and tens of thousands of users making decisions on par of users and deciding what they can and can not see.

If you have a niche or small community with shared and agreed upon values, defederating can be great. But I believe individual users are intelligent enough to choose.

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[–] RxBrad@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

This might be what finally drives me to roll my own instance of Mastodon, and potentially Lemmy. I just worry that it'll pummel my internet bandwidth and/or limited server capacity.

All of this yearning for drama and tribalism is exhausting... I thought I escaped it by leaving Twitter/Reddit, but it's just bubbling its way back to the surface.

[–] PupBiru@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

it shouldn’t pummel your bandwidth from what i understand: your instance will receive all updates and data only from things you follow; not the entire fediverse!

think of it kind of like just reading everything posted to every magazine you subscribe to!

it’s text and a few images: a single youtube video is probably bigger than a day of your fediverse subs

… assumptions and educated guesses above :)

[–] RxBrad@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The problem comes from the 1000s of other instances that ping you to extract the content you've created.

I kind of wish there was a simple reference saying what the required resources are for just a single-user Mastodon & Lemmy instance. That's really all I want. Will the 3GB of free RAM & few hundred GB of free SSD app-space on my NAS be enough?

(it probably exists... I just haven't found it...)

[–] hawkwind@lemmy.management 1 points 1 year ago

I don’t think you’ll get a hard requirement for that. Anecdotally, I can say you’ll be fine.

[–] hawkwind@lemmy.management 2 points 1 year ago

Dispel some misconception and help you make the choice: I run an instance that gets updates from everywhere and (because of the way activitypub works) it’s a stream of < 0.5 mbit average. Yes, that could double for every doubling of users, but it’s a far cry from the overwhelming overload of data people think is being federated.

[–] problematicconsumer@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Exactly. Some people are just looking for drama

[–] DreamerofDays@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

With a fair cohort moving here to escape the creep of corporate internet, it doesn’t seem, on the face of it, like they’re looking for drama. Saying they are is a handy way of dismissing them out of hand, though.

[–] Aesthesiaphilia@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago

Bingo. Conflating "every instance that ever said anything mean should be defederated" with "we should very specifically defederate Threads".

Is the fediverse experiencing its first astorturfing? This is a serious echo of the kinds of stuff we see in other astorturfing campaigns. Straw man, muddying water, "just asking questions", etc

[–] problematicconsumer@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Did I say everyone is looking for drama? It's above and not edited, Some people, if someone has no idea how this tech works and does no research and comes to conclusions, yes they're just looking for drama. Of course, there are good cases for defederation and must be considered.

[–] flyoverstate@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Like say for instance, calling people little dictators?

[–] hawkwind@lemmy.management 2 points 1 year ago

They look like average size dictators to me.