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[–] axont@hexbear.net 71 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

They keep mentioning how Joyce and Kim are helpful to the player as representatives of liberalism, but Evrart and Measurehead are antagonists as representatives of socialism and fascism. And they're saying the devs accidentally made liberals seem more agreeable this way.

Yeah no shit the liberals are more polite to Harry, he's a cop. Evrart is trying to impede the investigation? No shit, Evrart is organizing a strike and you're some dumbass cop working with a lady who's on the board of directors of the company he's striking against.

And they're saying the devs screwed up by showing communists as murderers or ineffective? That's the point, that building communism is hard, mistakes are made, and Harry's bias as a dumbass alcoholic cop is going to color his perception of the world. I hate these libs so much. I thought liberals were supposed to be media savvy but they completely miss the point

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 45 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I thought liberals were supposed to be media savvy but they completely miss the point

They consume media that makes them feel media savvy, especially when Adults In The Room Make The Hard Decisions and Get Shit Done in such media. joyce-messier

[–] ScrewdriverFactoryFactoryProvider@hexbear.net 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And when it came time to actually do something about the problems her company caused, Joyce is nowhere to be found.

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 22 points 1 year ago

That checks out. dubois-depressed

[–] Huldra@hexbear.net 38 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is on the devs for making the communism vision quest not mandatory, but the game literally has a character turn to the screen and monologue about how Communism is the only ideology that promises a better world is possible for each and every human being and that struggling for it is worth it even if you fail or are killed.

Meanwhile the fascism quest is all about how cope is destroying your life and ability to relate to other human beings, the moralism side quest has you fuck around with dumb bullshit that doesnt matter and almost gets you kidnapped by the state, and ultraliberalism is memes.

[–] axont@hexbear.net 29 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

spoilers just in case

All the political quests are Harry's methods of dealing with pain, with varying degrees of success. They're all cope. However the communist quest is the only one though where he tries dealing with his pain in a productive way, that is, he tries to remain optimistic and tries to at least understand other people. He comes across as goofy and arrogant when he says communist stuff, but that's to be expected.

He's an alcoholic cop who had amnesia and suddenly decided he's the reincarnation of Kras Masov. He's never read theory, never organized. His heart is in the right place but he's a dumbass.

The other quests are unhealthy ways of dealing with pain, especially fascism. Fascist Harry becomes a shell whose life revolves around racial hatred. It's the only quest where Kim will chew you out, beyond a professional capacity. He'll get sick of your shit and will berate you outside the church. Kim is the most patient man on Earth and the fascism quest has you betray even his trust.

The moralism stuff is just Harry trying to live in the memory of his marriage. Ultraliberal I interpreted as trying to ignore everything that's happening, compete dissociation. "This is good, actually" as an ideology.