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[–] areyouevenreal@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

We produce more than enough food to feed everyone. Even if you say something like logistics is an issue, we could still feed everyone in the developed nations at least, but we don't. That's a choice.

Climate change is much more of a practical issue than starvation and poverty. We already have solutions for starvation as I said.

[–] FastAndBulbous@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We don't have solutions for starvation at all on a global scale and we do try to feed everyone in developed nations that's why countries have welfare. I agree the welfare safety net should be stronger generally, but I don't think people starving to death is a widespread issue in developed nations. The homeless are much more likely to die due to lack of shelter or drug issues.

[–] areyouevenreal@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We have enough food and we have a global shipping industry that is very efficient. So why can't we feed everyone again?

[–] FastAndBulbous@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's clearly because we haven't had a socialist revolution. That would sort all logistical and societal problems out forever.

[–] areyouevenreal@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's what I am trying to tell you. There are no logistical problems we don't have the capacity to solve, it's simply not profitable to do so. Feeding the poor who can't pay you isn't profitable so it doesn't get done.

[–] FastAndBulbous@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There is thinking there are no logistics problems we can't solve and then there is actually solving them taking into account real geopolitics.

[–] areyouevenreal@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

taking into account real geopolitics"

So you admit then that the problems are political, not practical in nature?

[–] FastAndBulbous@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Geopolitical, as in a combination of political, cultural and geographical.

I don't think noting the problem is partially political is enough to say it's easily solveable.

I think we're coming at this from a different philosophy, you see politics as something that is easily changeable, I see it as a product of environmental and cultural positions. Changing the entire world's politics is a nigh on impossible task.

You see geopolitics as a variable, I see it as a constraint on the actual variables.