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wait, I can eat bacon for every meal and that would be considered a "diet"?
Yes and no. Keto and other low carb diets encourage you to eat bacon, but do be aware that you need to keep watching your salt intake as well as the type of fats used to prepare the bacon. Aditionally, this would also mean you do not get to eat most breads and pasta for instance. So yes to lots of bacon but no to lots of other good eats so that's why these diets are for those that need them due to e.g. pre-diabetis 2 or other health scares/risks.
Bacon's really not a healthy food however you swing it, unfortunately. Salt, nitrites, saturated fat, processed red meat, it's definitely one to enjoy in moderation rather than every day.
Bacon is cur3d and smoked pork belly. Pork belly, fresh, allows you to season it as you will, and it's keto and delicious
I don't care what keto folks say, it's not a healthy diet. You might lose weight but all that shit is going to damage your heart. Keto is a very specific diet that should be used under very specific circumstances but it's blown up recently because bacon...
There are more diets than keto that are low carb and/or use bacon and there's lots of people that use them for health reasons. The fact that some douches flaunt keto or other flavour of the season diets on social media does not mean there's not many people following similar diets, supported by real dietists and/or doctors for valid reason with great success to their health.
That's great for them! But as I said, unless you have specific circumstances that require a keto or similar diet don't do it lol. There seems to be a lot of people putting themselves on it even though it was created for a very specific issue and was very rare to be on. People saw it has high fat foods and want to be on it even though other diets that are much more heart healthy would work for them.
You know what damages your heart more than keto? Being fat.
Okay? Lmao I didn't say being fat was healthy, I said keto is generally an unhealthy diet. Quick Google search tells you it's one of the hardest on your cardio health. Unless recommended by your nutritionist, don't do keto. For the majority of people exorcise and portion control work wonders.
Keto includes vegetables, mushrooms, and tons of other food beyond just meat. All Keto is is cutting carbs.
Essentially, stop eating grasses because you don't have the digestive equipment large herbivores need to do so. Corn, rice, wheat, etc. Also cutting out sugar. I haven't seen a single diet recommend eating sugar in my life, but maybe some bulking diets do?
It's possible to be both vegan and keto. Incredibly expensive and difficult, but they aren't mutually exclusive.
Cows chew their cud because they're eating grass leaves.
We don't eat wheat, corn and rice stems. We eat prepared seeds, from grasses bred to have bigger seeds. Those are way easier to digest.
Diet isn't for weight loss by definition. The definition is "a special course of food to which a person restricts themselves"/"the kinds of food that a person, animal, or community habitually eats". You can go on a diet with intent of weight-loss, but it's not inherent to a diet itself.
For example, some bodybuilders go on a diet that includes cycles of bulking to gain mass and cutting to reduce body fat to get the 'shredded' look.
Others go on detox diets to enhance the functioning of their lymph systems, kidneys, and liver.
Actually the definition of diet is: “The set of things you eat and drink”
Kind of. I went on keto over the past 6 months and lost 60 lbs. I ate bacon almost every day. Keto is about maintaining ketosis by keeping carbs to a minimum (no fruit, no starches like rice and potatoes, no sugars, no bread, etc). You can eat as much no-carb food as you want. You lose a lot of weight.
Fruit isn't completely off the table. You just stick to low-carb fruit like berries. Apples and a few other fruits are ok in moderation as well.