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I've seen multiple requests for nsfw lemmy communities like reddit has. I live in Germany, and I think you are required to verify that the users that see porn content are above the age of 18. Does Lemmy has or plan to have a feature for that? Maybe this should be an issue on github?

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[–] BentiGorlich@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Nope I meant real verification. Pornhub doesn't require it, because the server and the company are not stated in Germany. Imo all porn site should have real verification instead of the "I am 18 or older" popup, that literally does nothing to prevemt minors from seeing porn.

[–] vmaziman@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago

nanny state regulations shouldn’t be a replacement for simply expecting parents to do their job and ensure their kid doesn’t have unfiltered internet access

[–] sexy_peach@feddit.de 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Wtf I don't want my personal ID in a database

[–] animist@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago

One solution that could work in the future is that the personal device (computer or smartphone) could have the basic info that the owner is over 18 and therefore only give a "yes they are over 18" confirmation to the website without sharing any personal info.

[–] sillypuddy@mander.xyz 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This is what I see when I access pornhub from my home in Louisiana without a VPN.

[–] underisk@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

I would've just blocked Louisiana instead of taking responsibility and liability for a bunch of sensitive personal information.

[–] sexy_peach@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What the actual fuck. It's just people having sex, for gods sake.

[–] BentiGorlich@feddit.de -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That is not necessary for age verification. You just have to go through a working verification process and then you just get the checkmark in the database. most sites that really verify your age use credit cards for that, which are of course sub par, because children can just take the cards from their parents, but it is better than nothing

[–] BentiGorlich@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And this process does not necessarily have to use ypu personal ID

[–] agarorn@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Never heard of something like that. Do you have an example of a website which dies that?

[–] RoaringSilence@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I can verify myself using my Id card and a terminal or via NFC. The app used is the middleware between software or website requesting verification and my ID. No data leaves my ID in direction to the software or website. The middleware just gives a thumbs up to the verification request.

[–] 7heo@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
[–] Negative_Pair_5694@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The thing is, the "software" actually is open source, so you can tell how data is requested from your smart ID. The german government ID has an explicit function for age verification that does not provide any personal information.
https://github.com/Governikus/AusweisApp2

However it is probably hard and costly to get certified to use any of those functions as a service provider.

[–] 7heo@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
[–] Zetaphor@zemmy.cc 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Lemmy is a platform managed by a disparate group of operators all with different levels of experience and commitment.

Verifying identity online is both a hard problem and a legal/security nightmare. It involves validating and possibly storing things like government identification or other sensitive personally identifiable information.

There is no way this will ever be implemented in the core platform. All existing solutions today are outsourced to third party companies with the expertise in validating different forms of identification as well as the legal insurance required to warehouse it.

And all of this is setting aside the obvious fact that you should not be required to doxx yourself in order to view pornographic content online. Minors will just go somewhere else outside of the jurisdiction of these rules and still get access. Hell, just turn off safe search on Bing and you can find porn.

Measures like this don't actually stop minors from accessing pornography. They only put law abiding citizens at risk by forcing them to trust private companies with their identification and hope their government doesn't decide to further police their morality, or use their revealed sexual preference against them.